[dev] Resetting sort order in IMP

[Ronan SALMON]

Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org> a écrit :

> Zitat von Ronan SALMON <rsalmon at mbpgroup.com>:
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>> Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org> a écrit :
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>>> Zitat von Ronan SALMON <rsalmon at mbpgroup.com>:
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>>>> Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org> a écrit :
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>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
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>>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
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>>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
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>>>>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
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>>>>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
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>>>>>>>>>> IIRC there used to be some option to reset the sort criterion
>>>>>>>>>> in IMP, i.e. to sort by arrival again. Has this gone? I
>>>>>>>>>> didn't find anything in the changelog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right click on header bar in dynamic view.  There should be a
>>>>>>>>> clear sort link in traditional view.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yikes. :) Can we add this to the "Other" menu button?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I explicitly did not do this because that setting doesn't belong
>>>>>>> in there.  *All* of our sorting options are currently contained
>>>>>>> in the header bar - locating a sorting option elsewhere is
>>>>>>> confusing and unintuitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe it's just me, but I found the context menu on the sort
>>>>>> header even less intuitive. Though I now remember that you even
>>>>>> mentioned this place in the past.
>>>>>> The "Other" entry might not be intuitive, but while searching for
>>>>>> that link, this was the first place I looked, lacking any other
>>>>>> options that would have made sense to me. Maybe we can put them
>>>>>> in both places.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we need this option in two places.  Especially since
>>>>> it is a rarely used option: based on your experience, it took you
>>>>> months, if not years, to figure out that this has changed.  Can't
>>>>> remember when I changed this, but it was probably at a minimum
>>>>> last year.
>>>
>>> True.
>>>
>>>>> This touches a bit on a very interesting UI discussion regarding
>>>>> the Win 8 task manager, especially regarding designing from the
>>>>> perspective of most used features:
>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/13/the-windows-8-task-manager.aspx
>>>
>>> That's an interesting read, and a nice solution for one our common
>>> problems: a diverse user group.
>>>
>>>>> (The earlier post about redesigning file operations is also
>>>>> interesting, whether you agree or disagree with what they came up
>>>>> with).
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you want something like the vertical layout sort dropdown
>>>>>>> (which doesn't currently contain Clear Sort either).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that's fine too, and I was looking for something like that
>>>>>> during the search. But I don't know where to put this in the
>>>>>> horizontal view.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try what I committed.  I stuck it next to the select all box,
>>>>> since that is the only column that doesn't have sorting semantics
>>>>> associated with it.  Additionally, I made it a more generic menu
>>>>> so we can stick other stuff there in the future (labeling the
>>>>> dropdown with 'Sort' is very confusing in this view).
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, that's definitely not intuitive. End users will never find
>>>> out where to click to get the sort menu. They will never realize
>>>> that such menu exists.
>>>> And I find very handy (since I'm using it :-)) the original
>>>> behaviour "Right click on header bar in dynamic view".
>>>>
>>>> I like the sort menu, but I think this should go in the "Other" menu.
>>>
>>> I don't agree. I like that solution. This was actually the second
>>> place where I looked for such an entry after the "Others" menu.
>>> One tiny issue though: the icon that highlights the current sort
>>> order is the drop down icon, which is a bit irritating and makes you
>>> want to click on it for further options. It should probably some
>>> tick icon.
>>
>> I agree, the drop down icon is a bit irritating and not intuitive.
>>
>> What about displaying the "Sort" menu on a right click on header bar ?
>
> How would that help if you don't even think of a possible context  
> menu in the header bar?

When you go over the header bar with the mouse, the mouse pointer changes.
That's how I originally discovered the "Clear sort" link.

Ronan.