[imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus

azurIt azurit at pobox.sk
Wed Sep 17 06:53:07 UTC 2014


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> Od: "John H. Bennett III" <bennettj at thebennetthome.com>
> Komu: <imp at lists.horde.org>
> Dátum: 17.09.2014 07:03
> Predmet: Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
>
>Quoting Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>
>> Quoting John H. Bennett III <bennettj at thebennetthome.com>:
>>
>>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>
>>>> Quoting John H. Bennett III <bennettj at thebennetthome.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail  
>>>>> client to maintain focus while in the preview window.  People  
>>>>> don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in  
>>>>> the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a  
>>>>> message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view,  
>>>>> and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys  
>>>>> to scroll through their message.  Why?  Yeah, because that's what  
>>>>> outlook can do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why  
>>>>> this isn't possible with horde.
>>>>
>>>> Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements.
>>>>
>>>> We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate  
>>>> potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the  
>>>> rest of the page.  IFRAMEs are handled differently by each  
>>>> browser.  An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the  
>>>> parent page.  So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO  
>>>> EFFECT on the rest of the page.
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely  
>>>> separate application than IMP.  We *try* to capture  
>>>> clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always  
>>>> possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be  
>>>> able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page).
>>>>
>>>> michael
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________
>>>> Michael Slusarz [slusarz at horde.org]
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> Yes, OK, thank you for explaining, but when using Outlook Web  
>>> Access, you don't have this issue, no matter if you are using a  
>>> MAC, or Windows PC.  Once you change the focus to the preview pane,  
>>> you are able to scroll with the mouse, or by using the keyboard keys
>>
>> And I'm also confused because you can scroll with the mouse and the  
>> keyboard keys using IMP.  Have been able to forever.
>>
>> michael
>>
>> ___________________________________
>> Michael Slusarz [slusarz at horde.org]
>>
>
>Not in the preview window.  If you are viewing a message in the  
>preview window, and click within the preview window area, then hit the  
>down arrow key, you are moved to the next email message.  Hitting the  
>page down key, you are taken to the last email shown on your screen.  
>If you hit end, then you are taken to your last email.  You can, or at  
>least I can, only move within the preview window, by cicking on the  
>scroll bar.  Of course, double-clicking on the message and having that  
>as the main focus, enables you to scroll by any method.
>
>I have this behavior with Chrome and IE-11, and on a MAC using Safari.
>
>Please know that I am only asking to try to better explain to people  
>how to better use the horde webmail system versus what most used to  
>use in Outlook.
>
>John
>


I'm able to scroll with mouse in Firefox on linux and i even don't have to focus right iframe - Firefox is scrolling that iframe, where the mouse pointer is. But i'm not able to scroll with keyboard too.

azur


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