[Tickets #13325] Editor bug - text drag and drop does not work

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Ticket URL: http://bugs.horde.org/ticket/13325
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  Ticket             | 13325
  Created By         | bob at bobhurt.com
  Summary            | Editor bug - text drag and drop does not work
  Queue              | Horde Groupware Webmail Edition
  Version            | 5.2.0RC1
  Type               | Bug
  State              | Unconfirmed
  Priority           | 1. Low
  Milestone          |
  Patch              |
  Owners             |
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bob at bobhurt.com (2014-07-06 20:12) wrote:

When I select text, then drag and drop it (with my mouse) to another  
location in an email message during New Message creation or  
reply/forward of a message, the text stays where it was.  I expect all  
text editing and message creation features to work AT LEAST as well as  
they do in my Google Chromium or Mozilla Firefox Browser standard  
webmail applications like Google, Live, etc.

HOW COMPLICATED CAN THIS BE, with WYSIWYG web mail editors having  
existed since the early 1990's?  You can get the code FREE from  
LibreOffice.  Why not ask for help with this from the piles of code  
already available.

Let me point out that the ONLY REASON I use Horde Groupware for  
webmail is that most of the other free versions suck worse, and I  
spurned Horde for years in favor of Outlook or Thunderbird BECAUSE the  
GUI was so ugly and tedious to use, and messing with email was so  
frustrating and labor intensive.   I just started using it to avoid  
having to spin up thunderbird and put up with its lethargy in  
downloading all the cached email through IMAP under UBUNTU (I use  
tbird all the time under Windows 8, and it has its own annoyances).   
But Horde's editor is a SUPREME PAIN IN THE NECK.  It needs to do drag  
and drop of images, text, links, and other content seamlessly.

I don't write merely to complain.  I want to USE horde a lot more in  
the future.  And I need it to function practically before I make that  
commitment.  I and MILLIONS OF OTHER CPANEL WEBMASTERS.

Yes, I know, I can use LIVE.com and GMAIL and YAHOO MAIL, and ZOHO,  
but I have to put up with THEIR business models and space limitations.  
  I already spend $100 a month on a dedicated server.  I'm hoping  
Horde can become my email program of choice among all of them.  In  
order for this to happen, HORDE developers must

1.  Make the editor into a world class substitute for libreoffice  
writer, more on the order of Google Docs

2.  Provide ever more sophisticated management, import, export and  
linking of address books.  For example, I need merge and purge  
functions to simplify address cleanup, full integration with my  
Android (Nexus 5, etc) phone and tablet contact lists, ability to  
email-merge to groups of contacts, and more intuitive finding of  
contacts among my other address books.  For example, I want to list  
all my address books with other mail programs or webmail programs,  
including Outlook and thunderbird on my PC, and HORDE's address  
location service needs to look for matching text or emails among all  
of them.  It also needs an easier way of synchronizing with  
thunderbird and outlook contact lists.  I have read instructions on  
this, but haven't a clue how to set up thunderbird to access Horde's  
address book, or vice versa.  We need a simpler, bulletproof method  
that normal users can use.  Also, Horde needs to add date tokens to  
every element in an address book entry.  Creation date becomes the  
starting token, then whenever an element changes, Horde adds the  
current date token to it without erasing the old element which the new  
element replaced.  This would add to the bulk of the address book over  
time.  But it would make merging, and purging of multiple entries very  
easy, and it would keep people from losing valuable stuff..  Horde  
needs to recommend address book maintenance to the user by detecting  
duplicates.  It also needs to conjecture about the name when only the  
email address exists for an entry.

3.  Provide better archiving for YEARS of email caches.  From the  
practical viewpoint, I let my email build up in imap for a year,  
purging the spam and stuff not worth saving as the days roll by. At  
the end of the year, I move everything into the archive for that year,  
with some messages going into a special topical archive folder for  
that year and topic.  Sometimes I need to search one or more archives  
to find certain content.  I really would like a feature like that  
built into horde, something that automates the process.  Remember that  
many users might want to leave a legacy of their thoughts (sent mail),  
and discussion threads on certain topics for their heirs.  Why  
shouldn't Horde provide that feature as a tool for improving  
civilization?  People could bequeath their archives to historical  
societies, and Horde could facilitate this, and earn search fees from  
libraries and research institutions and governments for access.  Horde  
could facilitate stashing the archives at archive.org. but maintain a  
local horde catalog of everything in the bequeathed archives.  Without  
such a service, much if not most valuable stuff that people write  
simply disappears when they die or suffer a life crisis like divorce,  
war, changing jobs, leaving educational institutions, etc.

Please don't mistake my comments for complaints.  I felt delighted to  
see the new user interface. Thanks for all the hard work and devotion.





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