From list messages recently, looks like I need PHP 4.0.4 and the latest PEAR CVS to use the latest CVS of horde/imp. The PHP website gives instructions for getting PHP via CVS, but nothing about getting just PEAR. Is this possible, and if so, how is it done? Thanks for any info. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, danb35@earthlink.net "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."