Hey, A friend of mine told me why not to use interbase for stuff (Interbase being a Borland OpenSource database that runs on linux and windows (and I think Solaris)), so to test it out, I tried horde on it, and Im glad to tell you it runs nice :-) (why shouldn't it, if it's db.php, but hey, you never know :-) ) (I'm trying turba next) Bye -- Julian