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äðàâñòâóéòå, Jan.

Âû ïèñàëè 7 ôåâðàëÿ 2002 ã., 15:54:00:

JS> Zitat von Anton Nekhoroshih <anton@valuehost.ru>:

>> Hello, dev.
>> 
>> imp/templates/mailbox/actions.inc
>> 10c10
>> <       <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap')): ?> |
>> ---
>> >       <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap') &&
>> !$prefs->getValue('use_trash')): ?> |
>> 20c20
>> <     <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap')): ?>
>> ---
>> >     <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap') &&
>> !$prefs->getValue('use_trash')): ?>

JS> HEAD? RELENG? Release? Why?

Release?  - current cvs
Why? - What for to see management of a basket if the removed messages are not present on the screen?

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: [dev] commit please

Zitat von Anton Nekhoroshih <anton@valuehost.ru>:

> äðàâñòâóéòå, Jan.
> 
> Âû ïèñàëè 7 ôåâðàëÿ 2002 ã., 15:54:00:
> 
> JS> Zitat von Anton Nekhoroshih <anton@valuehost.ru>:
> 
> >> Hello, dev.
> >> 
> >> imp/templates/mailbox/actions.inc
> >> 10c10
> >> <       <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap')): ?> |
> >> ---
> >> >       <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap') &&
> >> !$prefs->getValue('use_trash')): ?> |
> >> 20c20
> >> <     <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap')): ?>
> >> ---
> >> >     <?php if (strstr($imp['protocol'], 'imap') &&
> >> !$prefs->getValue('use_trash')): ?>
> 
> JS> HEAD? RELENG? Release? Why?
> 
> Release?  - current cvs
> Why? - What for to see management of a basket if the removed messages are
> not present on the screen?

The fact that you use a trash folder in IMP doesn't mean that aren't any 
deleted messages in the mailbox. You may switch trash folder on and off in 
IMP or access the mailbox with another client where you don't use a trash 
folder.

Jan.

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>From pchytil@asp.ogi.edu Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2002 10:15:40 -0800
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Subject: saving the sent mail into sent-mail

Hello,

I am having troubles to save my sent messages into sent-mail folder it goes
directly to fist folder (alphabeticaly sort) in my case ASP-backup.

I am running todays cvs, but problem is here for quit sometime.

Thanks,
	Pavel


>From marcus@riboflavin.net Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2002 14:01:46 -0600
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Subject: Re: [dev] saving the sent mail into sent-mail

A short while ago preferences were changed to include the folder prefix
in the Trash/Drafts/sent-mail folder options.  You can check MARC for
the details, but what it comes down to is you now must go back into
options and set the folders again.  

You also need to go into:
/usr/local/src/horde.3/imp/templates/compose/compose.inc
and get rid of the string 'IMP::preambleString() . ' from line 342.  I
submitted a "patch" yesterday, but that should take care of you until it
gets committed (if it hasn't already).

Quoting Pavel Chytil <pchytil@asp.ogi.edu>:

> Hello,
> 
> I am having troubles to save my sent messages into sent-mail folder
> it goes
> directly to fist folder (alphabeticaly sort) in my case ASP-backup.
> 
> I am running todays cvs, but problem is here for quit sometime.
> 
> Thanks,
> 	Pavel
> 
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Subject: Re: [dev] saving the sent mail into sent-mail

Marcus,

deleting the stuff from line 342 fixed it 

Thanks,

Pavel


Quoting "Marcus I. Ryan" <marcus@riboflavin.net>:

> A short while ago preferences were changed to include the folder prefix
> in the Trash/Drafts/sent-mail folder options.  You can check MARC for
> the details, but what it comes down to is you now must go back into
> options and set the folders again.  
> 
> You also need to go into:
> /usr/local/src/horde.3/imp/templates/compose/compose.inc
> and get rid of the string ' ' from line 342.  I
> submitted a "patch" yesterday, but that should take care of you until it
> gets committed (if it hasn't already).
> 
> Quoting Pavel Chytil <pchytil@asp.ogi.edu>:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am having troubles to save my sent messages into sent-mail folder
> > it goes
> > directly to fist folder (alphabeticaly sort) in my case ASP-backup.
> > 
> > I am running todays cvs, but problem is here for quit sometime.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 	Pavel
> > 
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>From marcus@riboflavin.net Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2002 14:38:54 -0600
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Subject: Re: [dev] imp: folder prefixes

I'm not sure what "the best way" is here, but the more I think about it,
the less I like the HEAD manner of handling this.  Whether it's a shared
folder prefix or a private folder prefix, either way you are hardcoding
the value of one user preference into the value of another.

I agree with providing the option of using a shared folders for
Drafts/Sent (not sure why you would use a shared folder for Trash), but
doing it the new way sets up problems for user preferences as we've
already seen.

The problem with the HEAD way is that if I decide, for one reason or
another, to change my folder prefix, I'm in just as much trouble
regarding use preferences later as I am now; I have to update everyone's
stored preferences to reflect the change.

Now, offering solutions is hard for me to do as I'm not intimately
familiar with the code.  I would say, though, that having received few,
if any, complaints about the RELENG way indicates this is a rare
problem.  We should have the system assume that they want to use a
private folder, and provide some kind of override for the shared
(special) case.

As an example, prepend a character to the folder name if it's shared. 
Then in IMP::preambleString() or somewhere similar, do a logic check. 
If it's not a shared folder, prepend the 'folders' and 'namespace'
settings.  If it is a shared folder, do whatever is appropriate for a
shared folder (don't append anything, append a shared folder prefix,
whatever).

I don't know what other complications this causes, but I think I would
rather see it back the old way with the shared folder limitation.  It's
easier to explain to a user they can't use a shared folder for Drafts
than it is to go through and update thousands of user preferences
(okay...for me right now it's just a few, but larger installations would
be unhappy).

That's my two cents...do with it what you will.

Quoting Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

> We need to decide what to do about the folder prefixes in preferences
> issue.
> 
> A summary:
> 
> In RELENG_3, the folder preferences - sent-mail, drafts, and trash -
> don't 
> include the folder prefix, if there is one. The side effect of this
> is that you 
> can't have a folder which doesn't have the prefix - any folder from a
> hierarchy 
> (#shared/, etc.), or some other folders, as those preferences - you
> can try and 
> select them, but the prefix will be prepended to them, so they won't
> work.
> 
> In HEAD, the prefix is included in the preference, so you can select
> whatever 
> folder you want.
> 
> I'm a bit surprised no one ran into problems with the way it works in
> RELENG_3 
> before; I consider it a bug, and consider the HEAD behavior correct.
> However, 
> it is a migration path issue, and we should probably resolve it one
> way or 
> another for 3.1. Making everyone update isn't good; providing a
> script to munge 
> preferences would be okay but a pain (and would have to account for
> serialized 
> identities); something transparent would be best, but I'm not sure
> how to go 
> about it.
> 
> Opinions? Thoughts?
> 
> -chuck
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>From jan@horde.org Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2002 22:34:52 +0100
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Subject: Fwd: [imp] Asthetic bug???

Why was this added anyway? As the currently stored (draft and trash) folder 
is preselected it doesn't make much sense to me.

----- Weitergeleitete Nachricht von Jon Starling <jons@uk.uu.net> -----
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 Betreff: [imp] Asthetic bug???
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In the 'Message Composition' Option window the currently configured folder
is echoed to the screen directly after the 'Drafts folder:' prompt as well
as in the drop-down box?  I assume this is not the desired bahaviour as
the other folderselect routines do not do this and IMHO it looks messy?

Changed...

[hordepath]/imp/templates/prefs/folderselect.inc

line: 25

from:

<td><?= _("Drafts folder:") . $prefs->getValue('drafts_folder') ?><br />

to:

<td><?= _("Drafts folder:") ?><br />

-Jon



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>From chuck@horde.org Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2002 16:46:42 -0500
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Subject: Re: [dev] Fwd: [imp] Asthetic bug???

Quoting Jan Schneider <jan@horde.org>:

> Why was this added anyway? As the currently stored (draft and trash) folder
> is preselected it doesn't make much sense to me.

One of them had it (not sure why - might have been left over debugging, even), 
and someone submitted a patch to have it for both.

Go ahead and nuke both of them.

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Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2002 17:52:33 -0500
From: Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>
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Subject: Re: [cvs] cvs commit: horde/admin/css index.php

Quoting Jan Schneider <jan@ammma.de>:

>   As this one is currently not being maintained and has some bugs, how
> should we go further with this one? Fix it or drop it?

It'd be cool if it could be fixed and integrated into the rest of the current 
admin stuff; I don't have the time to do it right now, though.

-chuck

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Charles Hagenbuch, <chuck@horde.org>
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