Here's a new template lib: http://docs.akbkhome.com/Template_Flexy/ I'm just going to start throwing stuff out here to see what people think, and what we might want to adopt/code in Horde. -chuck -- Charles Hagenbuch, <chuck@horde.org> "After a few minutes the most aromatic and nice smelling Italian coffee will come out of the exhaustpipe." - Our stove-top espresso pot