Chuck, you added a creditcard type to Horde_Form a while ago (December 2002), but I can't find a renderer for it in Horde_Form_Renderer. Did you have anything special in mind for it, or just a simple text field? thanks, john -- John Morrissey _o /\ ---- __o jwm at horde.net _-< \_ / \ ---- < \, www.horde.net/ __(_)/_(_)________/ \_______(_) /_(_)__