[dev] Fwd: RE: Tiki CMS/Groupware

[Chuck Hagenbuch]

Forwarding this on to the general community - I haven't replied to this round,
just got email initially from Marc yesterday.

----- Forwarded message from tiki at marclaporte.com -----
    Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:54:48 -0400
    From: Marc Laporte <tiki at marclaporte.com>
Reply-To: Marc Laporte <tiki at marclaporte.com>
 Subject: RE: Tiki CMS/Groupware
      To: 'Chuck Hagenbuch' <chuck at horde.org>

Below...

I am CCing a few members of the Tiki team.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Hagenbuch [mailto:chuck at horde.org]
Sent: September 21, 2003 9:24 PM
To: Marc Laporte
Subject: Re: Tiki CMS/Groupware

Quoting Marc Laporte <tiki at marclaporte.com>:

> I am with the Tiki CMS/Groupware project. I also use Horde/IMP/Turba for
one
> project. (I'm very satisified )

Cool!

> Our projects are similar as they offer a large number of features. I'm
> initiating contact to see if, in the future, there are some ways our two
> projects can collaborate.

That would be great. I've had discussions like this with a few other
projects before, and it's always hard to figure out how to integrate, since
there's always question about who's going to adjust what, etc.

[ML] Did these discussions lead to any changes?

[ML] Lately, we've had good success with partnerships with small,
uni-feature projects.( http://tikiwiki.org/TikiPartner) and some more are in
the works (http://tikiwiki.org/FuturePartner). Otherwise, one small CMS
project is closing down, migrating some modules, writing a conversion script
and all the developers (and presumably most users) will join Tiki. I expect
(and have indications) this will happen again with a few other small CMS
projects who want to be able to concentrate on one or two modules without
having to worry about the general framework.


One thing that might be fruitful is that we're moving towards making all of
our core classes available as packages - installable with the PEAR
installer.

See http://www.graftonhall.co.nz/packages/ for a beta version of the package
list; we're still getting everything up and running and switching over to
use package installs.

[ML] Great stuff!!
[ML]



> For example, we have developed the first (and only) PHP activity-based
> workflow engine: http://tikiwiki.org/GalaxiaWorkflow
> If you were planning on a adding a workflow, maybe we could collaborate.
> Postnuke has started testing to eventually make a module (pnGalaxia).

That'd be great if we could collaborate on that; it's something that I've
been hoping to add to various parts of Horde at some point.

[ML] great!
[ML]


I'd be interested in hearing any more specifics about what you had in mind.

[ML] In general, I want to open the communication lines between the Tiki
team and all other major projects. I like to share features where possible.
For example, a good cross-browser WYSIWYG editor with a multi-lingual
spellchecker would be a great feature to share amongst many different
projects. But if we don't share code/features, I'd like to share
knowledge/experience. This is my first OS project (except as a user) so I'm
learning a lot ;-)

[ML] I didn't consult my team on this so it may be a bit premature.
 We have a basic webmail feature. However, I am not satisfied with its
features & usability.  I notice that squirrelmail has modules (Xoops,
Phprojekt, GroupWare felamimail). However, none really seem officially
supported/endorsed by the Squirrel team.

[ML] I haven't played with your other features but from what I understand,
IMP is your flagship project and the most evolved. I think IMP webmail +
Turba would be an excellent replacement for our module. However, I don't
know how much work this represents.

[ML] We use the Smarty Template engine.
[ML] We are moving to ADOdb for database independence in 1.8

[ML] I would like our webmail to be well embedded. Ex.: If someone clicks an
email address on a wiki page, it should open the webmail for a new message.
I would like the possibility to check several email accounts from on Tiki
user account and the possibility to "share" a mailbox. Ideally, I would also
like our inter-user messages to be accessible at the same place as the
webmail (maybe in a folder).

[ML] How much work does this all represent? That is the question ;-)

[ML] Best regards,

[ML] M ;-)


Regards,
-chuck

--
Charles Hagenbuch, <chuck at horde.org>
Born right the first time.





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-chuck

--
Charles Hagenbuch, <chuck at horde.org>
Born right the first time.