[dev] [commits] Horde branch master updated. 58ef1ae895b31312073ba91b81ad1b3dfc88c02f

[Michael M Slusarz]

Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:

> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>
>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>
>>>> Quoting Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> commit 58ef1ae895b31312073ba91b81ad1b3dfc88c02f
>>>>>>>> Author: Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at curecanti.org>
>>>>>>>> Date:   Thu Sep 8 22:43:50 2011 -0600
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Revert "Don't dim the popdown arrow."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This reverts commit 11edc61ae65d4ac47d683ead01ff4dd5cdbae405.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure why this was committed; without it, there is no visual
>>>>>>>> representation when hovering over the dropdown image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And why would that be necessary? The idea was to make the  
>>>>>>> arrow more visible, because in dimmed mode, the contrast to  
>>>>>>> the background is really low, at least in the Silver theme.  
>>>>>>> This could be one of the reasons why it was missed easily. And  
>>>>>>> the hover effect isn't really necessary, especially since we  
>>>>>>> still have it for the actual button. It's just eye-candy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without it, I had no representation that the drop-down button  
>>>>>> did anything.  Quite honestly, I thought the button was broken  
>>>>>> yesterday when I updated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that it is determinative, but pretty much every other UI i  
>>>>>> have looked at has some kind of hover-effect on a popdown arrow  
>>>>>> like this.  So just like the original buttons: the theory is  
>>>>>> correct, it's just the graphical representation that may need  
>>>>>> further tweaking.
>>>>>
>>>>> My .02:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like having a hover-effect, but I think the default styling of  
>>>>> the popdown (and to be honest, the actual Reply/Forward/etc...  
>>>>> buttons as well) is way too light. To me, they look too much  
>>>>> like disabled form buttons. Maybe a darker color for the text,  
>>>>> and either darken (or widen?) the button borders on hover?
>>>>
>>>> I would agree that the default graphic is too light.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what's wrong with FF, but with the most recent  
>>> change, the background of the buttons are changed with a delay  
>>> after the background of the actual A tag. This doesn't make sense  
>>> because the link element is extended to the borders of the button  
>>> but yet the button text and icon change the background first, then  
>>> with a notable delay, the remainders of the button background is  
>>> changed.
>>> I already tried a few things to change this, to no avail.
>>
>> I see this too (although not 100% reliably - it only happens some  
>> of the time).  Almost sure this is a FF bug.  Not sure what to do -  
>> don't have FF7 handy, so not sure if it is fixed there.
>
> It's reproducable reliably if you mouseout of the button and quickly  
> mouseover it again. It's interesting that this doesn't seem to  
> happen with the spellcheck button. The difference is that this  
> button is manipulated after the page loading.

Re: the spellcheck button - I don't think it has anything to do with  
manipulating after the page load.  Instead, I think it is instead  
related to the fact that the image in the spellcheck button is an  
image tag, versus the images in the other buttons being background  
images of a span tag.

But I also discovered that the delayed effect goes away if you remove  
the opacity: 0.6 definition from the pre-hover elements.  So it  
appears to be something wrong with FF's rendering engine.

michael

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Michael Slusarz [slusarz at horde.org]