[gollem] Dynamic SMB location in gollem backend

Tue Jan 14 09:57:59 UTC 2014

Zitat von Soporte SCHOLEM <soporte at scholem.edu.ar>:

> Thank you, Matthew for your answer and suggestions. I would want to resume
> our situation (maybe other guys have the same):
> One year ago we installed Horde with basic modules (mail, schedule,
> contacts, notes and tasks) in replacement of our Exchange Server 2003. The
> result was great. Horde is a very nice and useful packet and was very well
> accepted for users.
> Now, after one year of usage and improvements, we would want to migrate our
> MS file sharing and move all the user's data to Horde, by adding Gollem
> module.
> With this schema, users would have only one login for all (Horde login),
> and would be able to access to all their content from anywhere by web
> interface, becoming Horde to be the main Intranet page.
> But we are seeing that our Gollem (that is a powerful tool) has some
> problems:
> 1. Folders creation: if you create a new folder, Gollem keeps it in tmp
> space until you put into (upload) the first file. If you just create the
> folder and leave to other menu, Gollem deletes the tmp folder. i.e.: You
> have to move some files from one folder to a new one. Then, you mark the
> files and copy them the clipboard. Next, you pick on *create folder*, wrote
> a name, pick OK and new folder *seems* to be created. If you go to that
> "virtual" folder and paste from the clipboard, you get this error
> message: 
> *****************************************************************************
> [folder] NT_STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND
>  1. Gollem::copyFile() /var/www/horde/gollem/manager.php:171
>  2. Gollem::_copyFile() /var/www/horde/gollem/lib/Gollem.php:497..........
> *****************************************************************************
>
> In order that no errors appear, you have to upload some file immediately
> after of create the folder. So, the folder go from tmp space to disk space
> and no error shows when you paste files from clipboard.
> Is this a bug or a misconfiguration?. Anywone has the same problem?

Sounds like a bug.

> 2. Cut & paste: if you *cut* instead *copy* a file, you will always get
> this error when you paste the file anywhere:
> *********************************************************************
> NT_STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND opening remote file [path\file]
>  1. Gollem::moveFile() /var/www/horde/gollem/manager.php:169
>  2. Gollem::_copyFile()/var/www/horde/gollem/lib/Gollem.php:480.............
> *********************************************************************
> Is this a bug or a misconfiguration? Does it have relation with ticket
> #12106?

Probably a bug too.

> 3. Gollem and WebDAV integration. When users have to edit files other than
> txt or html, they have to download and upload them. This drawback is not
> only in the additional job of upload, but also for leaving a copy of the
> modified file at the desktop or download place. Finnaly, users won't use
> Gollem's folders, but will use their desktop copies and this is not what we
> want. I guess integration of WebDAV with Gollem would solve this issue, but
> that integration is not developed yet. Will next versions of Gollem include
> some of those changes?
>
> Thank you in advance.
> Have a nice day!
> Carlos
>
>
>> Matthew <mw at robotmouse.com> escribió:
>>
>>> On 07/01/14 11:54, Carlos Martinez wrote:
>>>> I would tell you that I am also installing Gollem with smb backend and
>>>> have some basic problems with the implementation. I would want to know
>>>> if you had the same ones.
>>>> The main problem is about the usage:
>>>> *When my users have to edit a file other than txt or html (.doc, .xls,
>>>> etc), they have to download it, edit it and upload it again. That is a
>>>> undesired additional job for them*.
>>>>
>>>> I tried giving an alternative way to access their files: folders
>>>> network sharing throug smb. But this schema is not compatible with file
>>>> sharing of Gollem.
>>>>
>>>> I tested two backends: file and smb.
>>>> Each have advantages and problems:
>>>> *File* backend: due to www-data is the owner of folders, users can
>>>> share them because security is taken from Gollem tables. This is great.
>>>> But if folders are accessed from other environment out of Horde, all
>>>> users can see all folders, because there is no security.
>>>>
>>>> *smb* backend: due to each user is owner of his folder, security is ok
>>>> when they access from other environment out of Horde.
>>>> But users cannot share folders because security of Gollem tables cannot
>>>> override smb security.
>>>>
>>>> How did you solve the problem of downloading and uploading files when
>>>> users need to edit a file?
>>>
>>> Hi Carlos - thanks for your reply and comments. I wish I had some good
>>> answers for you, but I think I can only agree with you!
>>>
>>> As to editing files, I don't think theres anyway round downloading and
>>> uploading, when accessing through a web interface. The mechanism just
>>> isn't there to be able to do it - it's a browser limitation rather than
>>> a Horde one. I guess in theory if you go the all MS route, there may be
>>> some kind of ActiveX thing that could do it - but I'm really not up on
>>> it. For me it's not really a big issue as I'm using Horde for
>>> occasional/remote access to shares - when people are at the office, they
>>> mainly have shares mounted directly via SMB.
>>>
>>> Which sort of leads to your next query about file vs smb - as far as I
>>> can tell, you are right, but I don't really have a workaround to hand -
>>> maybe somebody else does? I haven't really tried the folder sharing
>>> feature of gollem, so I've not figured how it works with various types
>>> of backend.
>>>
>>> You may want to take a look at pydio (formerly Ajaxplorer) which is
>>> another online file manager which has some clever sharing stuff going on
>>> - I had been using it until now and it is good - but I'm switching to
>>> gollem since it allows my users access to everything via a single web
>>> interface. If that's not so important, then pydio is worth looking at.
>>> Matthew
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