Quoting Jan Kuipers <jrkuipers at lauwerscollege.nl>: > Is there a reason why the Orator entry was removed from the horde > registry? Yes, it's deprecated. -chuck -- Charles Hagenbuch, <chuck at horde.org> "After a few minutes the most aromatic and nice smelling Italian coffee will come out of the exhaustpipe." - Our stove-top espresso pot