[horde] reagent: the code

Mij mij at bitchx.it
Sat May 1 04:01:08 PDT 2004


Il giorno 26/apr/04, alle 17:38, Chuck Hagenbuch ha scritto:

> Quoting Mij <mij at bitchx.it>:
>
>> horde3 is still quite buggy.
>
> Do you have anything to back up this FUD?

FUD? And fear for what?

well, more than "buggy" the feeling I had using horde3
is that its skeleton is completely ready, but that a set of
those details "required" to appear stable misses.

the INSTALL file is not complete, and some requirement
is not specified, for example. Two examples are the
fact that System_command (from PEAR) is needed to
proceed installing the  "php -q install-packages.php" but
not requested as "prerequisite".
Nothing is said about php's configuration, implying the
requirement the user having the "default" php.ini file,
while I had to modify something by myself to get half
of horde working.

Then, I got to adapt by hand some details in the code to
get everything working well.

Still, it's nice the whole section about PEAR and PECL,
while the section where it talks about where to put it
in the webserver is too quick. Who's not used with horde
could spend time to know that you can't put it under a
"http://horde.foobar.com/", pointing it directly to the .../horde/
folder.

I got problems with logging to file, then. Can be my fault,
but I just did its setup from the web panel, prepared any
file with the right perms, and it doesn't log anything. Don't
say they don't work, just this is another thing requiring
a bit of hand work.

Then, you don't feel horde is completely ready for production
is it's completely unknown "outside": no one major linux
distribution, nor even the large and very up-to-date freebsd's
ports tree made it available.

And finally, the fact that neither the horde project itself provides
a "stable", "official" horde3 package, as for from the site:
"horde-3.0-ALPHA.tar.gz"

Please don't get offended by this. As far as I saw so far, horde3
is amazing in respect of horde2. Besides the more freshy look
it features, the thing of using conf.xml files to generate config
panels is just perfect. And it is clear to see the well work you all
done with it, with a whole "framework".

What i'm saying is still that its current appearence is not appetible
for "insitutions" to choose it over horde2.


> Especially as opposed to Horde 2.x?

never find any! horde2 is really nice. Even if h3 is more powerful,
horde2 does very well its job. And while I just used chora and turba
with it, I never had problems.

bye




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