I do not see a klutz list on www.horde.org, and I have some questions about automating klutz/scripts/cli-backend.php, which does not appear to be working. What is the most appropriate list/email address for such an inquiry? Thanks, Bill Day -- Bill Day williamson.day at gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: EE5D DE55 9EF1 E012 7417 A5F1 1D7D 0847 7785 1146