[horde] strange errors in horde-log
Michael M Slusarz
slusarz at horde.org
Fri May 20 16:54:52 UTC 2011
Quoting Vilius Šumskas <vilius at lnk.lt>:
>> Am 20.05.2011 11:00, schrieb Vilius Šumskas:
>> >> Am 20.05.2011 10:35, schrieb Ronan SALMON:
>> >>> Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org> a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>> I really hope this is not another thing that suhosin breaks.
>> >>>
>> >>> Although it is specified in docs files, you probably could add a suhosin
>> >> detection script in the test.php files
>> >>> (and/or the horde/admin/config pages) and display some kind of
>> warning.
>> >> It should then help a lot admins that
>> >>> didn't read carefully the docs files or didn't even know that
>> they had the
>> >> suhosin extension enabled.
>> >>
>> >> instead of forcing admins to exclude an application from security-
>> extensions
>> >> the application has to be developed/tested against suhosin since this is
>> >> not a exotic extension
>> >>
>> >> H3 has/had no problems with suhosin also not with mod_security (except
>> >> mail-send)
>> >> and if H4 has problems here something went wrong
>> >
>> > It is not exotic, bad it's amateur and badly written.
>>
>> who is saying this?
>> you?
>
> No. Core PHP team. It was one of the main reasons why it wasn't
> accepted into PHP core in the first place. But that's not really the
> topic of this thread.
>
> Considering the amount of questions we have on the list regarding
> broken PHP installations I support showing notices in test.php
> regarding suhosin.
Agreed that suhosin has all sorts of problems. When it doesn't let
you do things that are *explicitly* part of the the HTTP specs, for
example, no amount of argument is going to convince me otherwise.
(According to suhosin, the null character is a security threat.
What?!?! That is one of the worst assumptions I have ever seen.)
Anybody can create "security patches" that simply disable large chunks
of PHP. Congratulations. That's just sloppy/bad coding at best.
That being said, IMP 5.1 will try to work around this brokenness when
it comes to accessing search mailboxes. And for the above - I don't
know that this is something that suhosin is causing or not. It was
just a guess. But given that one issue will be going away, and one
has not been conclusively proven to cause the issue, not sure if an
explicit warning is necessary.
michael
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