I don't see planet horde (planet.horde.org) around since the ftp server has been rebuilt. Is it still around? -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang at b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537