[horde] horde replacement

[Jan Schneider]

Zitat von Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>:

> Am 05.03.2012 00:11, schrieb Gunnar Wrobel:
>> I don't get your point as there are packages for several  
>> distributions and others are being prepared.
>
> there are no one for Fedora
> i liked to built one short after release
> but i have other work too, so i can not spent days for a webmail
>
>> If it would be it wouldn't get repackaged. See above.
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=2047
>
> where?
>
> and fedora is usually a distribution with new and rough packages
> looks like the maintainer tehre has also a life beside it

We didn't hear any complaints from Fedora so far. So instead of doing  
wild guessing about the Fedora maintainer's motivation, how about  
*asking* them instead? We don't know why there are no Horde 4  
packages, as much as you don't know either. So please don't pretend  
you do.

>> There was no break of the upgrade path. See the UPGRADE docs and upgrades
>> from Horde 3 to Horde 4 is something we do constantly.
>
> how you you update the RPM packages of a fedora system
> if there are no one available? looks not like this will
> change in the near future leading to orphaning the package
> after H4 does no longer get securoty fixes

Then complain at Fedora, not at us.

>> I agree with you. As said before: On the developer side we have to  
>> focus on one packaging system. This is PEAR for
>> now. We don't force you to use this. In fact if you are using  
>> Debian I would encourage you to stick to the Debian
>> packaging system and install Horde 4 via "apt-get"
>
> fedora user and admin for 20 servers
>
> as said i had liked to package H4 but not with this hughe
> amount of work compared with H3
>
>>> PEAR is not useable in large environments
>>> H4 is not easy packageable for large environments
>>> so H4 is unuseable for large environments
>
> you realized that i am the packager in our infrastructure for
> services with any public access? not at least for security
> reasons because distributions are way too slow get fixed
> updates in their stable-repos and if you you have security
> aduits every week you can not wait two weeks
>
> so it is MY work to package horde or replace it with
> as solution not eating my half lifetime for maintaining
> because my day has only 24 hours

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