[horde] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Interface design Horde 4.1/5.0

lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de
Tue Apr 24 10:04:31 UTC 2012

Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:

> Quoting Gunnar Wrobel <wrobel at horde.org>:
>> lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de schrieb:
>>> We have disabled the dynamic views after many support calls from
>>> people using it and only use the static as of now. Not having the
>>> static view or something similar would probably mean not using Horde
>>> anymore in our case.
>> Can you provide more details? Why is the dynamic view no option?  
>> What is missing/problematic about it?
> I, too, am interested in this answer.  Especially since our  
> experience has been just the opposite: nobody uses the traditional  
> mode anymore - only the dynamic (and smartmobile) mode, for IMP at  
> least.  All paid development requests in the last 3-4 years have  
> been exclusively for the dynamic view.  I personally am no longer  
> actively adding features for the traditional view.

I have sort out some of the feedback we got from tests with the dynamic view:

Most annoying as others said where the difference between  
dynamic/non-dynamic and between the two dynamic applications.

Next point was the inconsistent UI with klickable actions sometimes as  
buttons sometimes as underlined text and sometimes as small side-by  
icon mixed all over the place and sometimes not visible at all like  
calender->new-event. I have seen users klicking all over the place  
simply to find out where an action occurs if at all.

In the mail view the users where often looking for the forward button  
to "browse" through the mails and a "paging" view instead of a long  
list. Navigation by keyboard is fine if all works that way.

Many users found the "settings" to click on and play with but not the  
"far away" new mail button.

The calender was more in the direction what could be useful some day,  
but there are also some navigation problems.

The most missed thing was the side-bar to switch between mail/calender  
etc. The way to go portal->side-bar->application was not seen as  

An other point was the inability to mark a day in the month view to  
work with, e.g. select some day in the future and zoom in to the day  
view for that day by one click on the day-view button. This can be  
done by the small left-corner calender but this thing has the problem  
that it moves with the big overview, but not vice-versa.

These where only a few points which all in sum lead to many more  
seeking/playing around/calling support with the dynamic views so we  
finally disabled it in the hope the simplicity of the standard view  
will some day also be available with dynamic elements. I can  
understand that many nice features are possible with dynamic view, but  
without a straight-forward usage design the improvments get lost by  
searching around.



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