[horde] Incorrect English (I believe) in your mailing - IMPORTANT - Re: horde Digest, Vol 4146, Issue 2

Thu Oct 30 09:39:28 UTC 2014

Stable releases had actually been called final (as opposed to the  
unstable release candidates), since long before I (being the German)  
have been taking the role of the release master.
I have a few times wondered about the wording too, but never  
questioned it, because I'm not a native speaker. And it could well be  
some usual wording in software release management.

Zitat von info at interpost.biz:

> Hello,
>
> I taught English for 20 years, and I realize that many of the  
> maintainers of the HORDE project and its mail list are German  
> speaking (I believe), and your English is generally quite good. But  
> here you may have made a MAJOR mistake in meaning.
>
> "Final" means "last" - as in the last one - there will not be any  
> more. So, when you write
> "The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the  
> Mnemo Note Manager version H5 (4.2.2)..." you are stating that there  
> will not be any more releases, that this is the last and final  
> release.
>
> Perhaps you mean to say the " latest release" or the "next release"  
> or the "current release".
>
> Thank you for your work on the Horde project, I had to email you  
> about this, because the meaning of the wording you used is so very  
> different from what you probably mean.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed
>
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>     Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:15:45 +0000
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>>   1. Mnemo H5 (4.2.2) (final) (Jan Schneider)
>>   2. Whups H5 (3.0.1) (final) (Jan Schneider)
>>   3. Re: [announce] Horde 5.2.2 (final) (Ralf Lang)
>>   4. Re: [announce] Horde 5.2.2 (final) (Jan Schneider)
>>   5. Wicked H5 (2.0.2) (final) (Jan Schneider)
>>   6. Horde Groupware 5.2.3 (final) (Jan Schneider)
>>   7. Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5.2.3 (final) (Jan Schneider)
>>   8. HTML Editor not loading (Henning)
>>   9. Re: HTML Editor not loading (Andy Dorman)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:16:09 +0100
>> From: Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>
>> To: announce at lists.horde.org, vendor at lists.horde.org,
>> 	horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: [horde] Mnemo H5 (4.2.2) (final)
>> Message-ID: <20141029151609.Horde.Bb35jDZKLnu974pisX-oNA2 at 127.0.0.1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>>
>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the Mnemo Note
>> Manager version H5 (4.2.2).
>>
>> The Mnemo Note Manager is the Horde notes/memos application. It allows
>> users to
>> keep web-based notes and freeform text. Notes may be shared with other users
>> via shared notepads. It requires the Horde Application Framework and an SQL
>> database or Kolab server for backend storage. For more information on Mnemo,
>> visit http://www.horde.org/apps/mnemo.
>>
>> For upgrading instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/nag/docs/UPGRADING
>>
>> For detailed installation and configuration instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/nag/docs/INSTALL
>>
>> The major changes compared to the Mnemo version H5 (4.2.1) are:
>>     * Small bugfixes and improvements.
>>
>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/fcbd05a969191746ff0595310c01d2c9d5b6efe6/mnemo/docs/CHANGES
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> The Horde Team.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:32:26 +0100
>> From: Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>
>> To: announce at lists.horde.org, vendor at lists.horde.org,
>> 	horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: [horde] Whups H5 (3.0.1) (final)
>> Message-ID: <20141029153226.Horde.xkguftnsrc8x2q81lsJkRw5 at 127.0.0.1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>>
>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the Whups Ticket
>> Tracking System version H5 (3.0.1).
>>
>> Whups is a Horde ticket-tracking application. It is very flexible in design,
>> and can be used for help-desk requests, tracking software development, and
>> anything else that needs to track a set of requests and their  
>> status. For more
>> information on Whups, visit http://www.horde.org/apps/whups.
>>
>> For upgrading instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/whups/docs/UPGRADING
>>
>> For detailed installation and configuration instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/whups/docs/INSTALL
>>
>> The major changes compared to the Whups version H5 (3.0.0) are:
>>     * Small bugfixes and improvements.
>>
>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/a5116c0086faf42c714617ebeb446893e00faac6/whups/docs/CHANGES
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> The Horde Team.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:33:50 +0100
>> From: Ralf Lang <lang at b1-systems.de>
>> To: horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: Re: [horde] [announce] Horde 5.2.2 (final)
>> Message-ID: <5450FACE.5020703 at b1-systems.de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> On 29.10.2014 12:44, Jan Schneider wrote:
>>> The major changes compared to the Horde version 5.2.1 are:
>>>    * Small bugfixes.
>>>
>>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/fbdbd615fbf12c1355af5d1a4ae049d795a7a597/horde/docs/CHANGES
>>>
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> The Horde Team.
>>
>> Now, 3 hours later, the github CHANGES link is not working. Has the link
>> structure changed?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ralf Lang
>> Linux Consultant / Developer
>> Tel.: +49-170-6381563
>> Mail: lang at b1-systems.de
>> B1 Systems GmbH
>> Osterfeldstra?e 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de
>> GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:17:09 +0100
>> From: Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>
>> To: horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: Re: [horde] [announce] Horde 5.2.2 (final)
>> Message-ID: <20141029161709.Horde.R3Hco5obABcUT05CQ-YfMg1 at neo.wg.de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>>
>>
>> Zitat von Ralf Lang <lang at b1-systems.de>:
>>
>>> On 29.10.2014 12:44, Jan Schneider wrote:
>>>> The major changes compared to the Horde version 5.2.1 are:
>>>>    * Small bugfixes.
>>>>
>>>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/fbdbd615fbf12c1355af5d1a4ae049d795a7a597/horde/docs/CHANGES
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have fun!
>>>>
>>>> The Horde Team.
>>>
>>> Now, 3 hours later, the github CHANGES link is not working. Has the link
>>> structure changed?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ralf Lang
>>> Linux Consultant / Developer
>>> Tel.: +49-170-6381563
>>> Mail: lang at b1-systems.de
>>> B1 Systems GmbH
>>> Osterfeldstra?e 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de
>>> GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537
>>
>> No, I'm still not done with releases, thus no push yet.
>>
>> --
>> Jan Schneider
>> The Horde Project
>> http://www.horde.org/
>> https://www.facebook.com/hordeproject
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:10:13 +0100
>> From: Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>
>> To: announce at lists.horde.org, vendor at lists.horde.org,
>> 	horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: [horde] Wicked H5 (2.0.2) (final)
>> Message-ID: <20141029171013.Horde.ObnTVUhtJ-sk_XN62Ga76g4 at 127.0.0.1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>>
>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the Wicked wiki
>> application version H5 (2.0.2).
>>
>> Wicked is a wiki application for the Horde Framework. It uses  
>> PEAR's Text_Wiki
>
>> library for the actual wiki markup parsing and rendering. It  
>> supports Creole,
>> Mediawiki, Tiki Wiki, and its own markup engine. For more information on
>> Wicked, visit http://www.horde.org/apps/wicked.
>>
>> For detailed installation and configuration instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/wicked/docs/INSTALL
>>
>> The major changes compared to the Wicked version H5 (2.0.1) are:
>>     * Added Danish and Swedish translations.
>>
>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/3c40a433d9c8930db969fe75d43e52a8932616b1/wicked/docs/CHANGES
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> The Horde Team.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:19:17 +0100
>> From: Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>
>> To: announce at lists.horde.org, vendor at lists.horde.org,
>> 	horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: [horde] Horde Groupware 5.2.3 (final)
>> Message-ID: <20141029171917.Horde.BiYU9QYgXxgw3MmOKYJPEw9 at 127.0.0.1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>>
>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the  
>> Horde Groupware
>> version 5.2.3.
>>
>> Horde Groupware is a free, enterprise ready, browser based collaboration
>> suite. Users can manage and share calendars, contacts, tasks, notes,
>> files, and
>> bookmarks with the standards compliant components from the Horde Project.
>>
>> For upgrading instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/groupware/docs/UPGRADING
>>
>> For detailed installation and configuration instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/groupware/docs/INSTALL
>>
>> The major changes compared to the Horde Groupware version 5.2.2 are:
>>     * Several bugfixes and improvements.
>>
>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/9a0270118ffa778b28eab7feaf33afbf9f95be00/bundles/groupware/docs/CHANGES
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> The Horde Team.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:22:29 +0100
>> From: Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>
>> To: announce at lists.horde.org, vendor at lists.horde.org,
>> 	horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: [horde] Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5.2.3 (final)
>> Message-ID: <20141029172229.Horde.F0ysMOPqOVQE-j4aMXx44w1 at 127.0.0.1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>>
>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the  
>> Horde Groupware
>> Webmail Edition version 5.2.3.
>>
>> Horde Groupware Webmail Edition is a free, enterprise ready, browser based
>> communication suite. Users can read, send and organize email messages
>> with four
>> different webmail interfaces and manage and share calendars,  
>> contacts, tasks,
>> notes, files, and bookmarks with the standards compliant components from the
>> Horde Project.
>>
>> For upgrading instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/webmail/docs/UPGRADING
>>
>> For detailed installation and configuration instructions, please see
>> http://www.horde.org/apps/webmail/docs/INSTALL
>>
>> The major changes compared to the Horde Groupware Webmail Edition
>> version 5.2.2
>> are:
>>     * Small bugfixes and improvements.
>>
>> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/aeb5281ffb4c2f41435024b0379604c30a5cdde7/bundles/webmail/docs/CHANGES
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> The Horde Team.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:42:45 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Henning <Twilek at gmx.de>
>> To: horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: [horde] HTML Editor not loading
>> Message-ID: <loom.20141029T203353-614 at post.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have tried to solve a problem with the HTML Mode in the Message compose
>> window on a friends Horde installation. Everything seems to work fine except
>> when one tries to enable the HTML Mode. The writing area "dims" and the
>> "Loading..." appears and thats it. The HTML Editor does not appear, there
>> are no errors even when waiting long enough. He is using the debian horde
>> packages in a "stable" debian installation. I have cleared the horde caches,
>> turned off caching, cleared browser caches. With maximum logging neither
>> Apache log, PHP log, Syslog and Horde log show any kind of error. Horde?s
>> test.php does not show any errors. I have checked file permissions on the js
>> files. If I use his browser and log into my horde installation the HTML Mode
>> works fine so there are no apparent limits on javascript he might have
>> turned on in the browser. I am completely out of ideas where to look. Has
>> anyone had a similar problems or any pointers what might be going wrong.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Henning
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:15:36 -0500
>> From: Andy Dorman <adorman at ironicdesign.com>
>> To: horde at lists.horde.org
>> Subject: Re: [horde] HTML Editor not loading
>> Message-ID: <54514AE8.8070600 at ironicdesign.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> On 10/29/2014 02:42 PM, Henning wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have tried to solve a problem with the HTML Mode in the Message compose
>>> window on a friends Horde installation. Everything seems to work  
>>> fine except
>>> when one tries to enable the HTML Mode. The writing area "dims" and the
>>> "Loading..." appears and thats it. The HTML Editor does not appear, there
>>> are no errors even when waiting long enough. He is using the debian horde
>>> packages in a "stable" debian installation. I have cleared the  
>>> horde caches,
>>> turned off caching, cleared browser caches. With maximum logging neither
>>> Apache log, PHP log, Syslog and Horde log show any kind of error. Horde?s
>>> test.php does not show any errors. I have checked file permissions  
>>> on the js
>>> files. If I use his browser and log into my horde installation the  
>>> HTML Mode
>>> works fine so there are no apparent limits on javascript he might have
>>> turned on in the browser. I am completely out of ideas where to look. Has
>>> anyone had a similar problems or any pointers what might be going wrong.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Henning
>>>
>>
>> The HTML editor is ckeditor which is written in javascript and loaded
>> after the compose window is opened.
>>
>> If your server uses the Debian package for ckeditor, there is a problem
>> with that package at the moment.  I saw some email between the Debian
>> Horde maintainer and the Debian ckeditor maintainer a few days ago
>> talking about this.  I would expect a repaired package to be released soon.
>>
>> You can confirm this is your problem by watching the javascript console
>> log (hit F12 to open a debugger if you have firebug installed) when you
>> open the compose window.
>>
>> If you see a http 404, file not found error for /core/loader.js
>> then you have the Debian package problem for ckeditor.
>>
>> If you are sure that ckeditor is being loaded, then I have no idea what
>> the problem could be.
>>
>> --
>> Andy Dorman
>>
>>
>>
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