[horde] Blank lines in the mail
Ralph Ballier
ballier at mail.schule.de
Tue Dec 8 10:19:17 UTC 2015
Zitat von Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org>:
> Quoting Ralph Ballier <ballier at mail.schule.de>:
>
>> Zitat von Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Quoting Ralph Ballier <ballier at mail.schule.de>:
>>>
>>>> Zitat von Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Ralph Ballier <ballier at mail.schule.de>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Zitat von Steffen <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Ralph Ballier wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:27:26 +0200
>>>>>>>> From: Ralph Ballier <ballier at mail.schule.de>
>>>>>>>> To: horde at lists.horde.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [horde] Blank lines in the mail
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if I forward or reply a mail in HTML format, sometimes, but not
>>>>
>>>> always
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> get many blank lines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look below. This is the beginning of a mail, when I start to
>>>>>>>> forward
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> reply. It don't depend on the browser.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Outlook there is no problem to answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does the "raw" body of the message looks like? Is it a HTML
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> with alternate text/plain part? How does either part looks like?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Me first bet is that there are alternate parts the MUAs reply to or
>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>>>> the HTML part contains tags, which cause these many blank lines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a folder with a content of 30 mails I found about 6 mails with
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> blank lines, if I try to answer. If I click at the "Text" button, I
>>>>>> downloaded the follow text as example. I have anonymize some words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps this ist helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------- download after click
>>
>> at
>>>>>> button "Text"
>>
>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
>>>>>> xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
>>>>>> xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
>>>>>> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <head>
>>>>>> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;
>>>>>> charset=iso-8859-1">
>>>>>> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">
>>>>>> <style>
>>>>>> <!--
>>>>>> /* Font Definitions */
>>>>>> @font-face
>>>>>> {font-family:Verdana;
>>>>>> panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
>>>>>> /* Style Definitions */
>>>>>> p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
>>>>>> {margin:0cm;
>>>>>> margin-bottom:.0001pt;
>>>>>> font-size:12.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:"Times New Roman";}
>>>>>> a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
>>>>>> {color:blue;
>>>>>> text-decoration:underline;}
>>>>>> a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
>>>>>> {color:purple;
>>>>>> text-decoration:underline;}
>>>>>> span.E-MailFormatvorlage17
>>>>>> {mso-style-type:personal-compose;
>>>>>> font-family:Arial;
>>>>>> color:windowtext;}
>>>>>> @page Section1
>>>>>> {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;
>>>>>> margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;}
>>>>>> div.Section1
>>>>>> {page:Section1;}
>>>>>> -->
>>>>>> </style>
>>>>>> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
>>>>>> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
>>>>>> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
>>>>>> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
>>>>>> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
>>>>>> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
>>>>>> </head>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <div class=Section1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
>>>>
>>>> style='font-size:10.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Arial'>Hier das Medienkonzept nebst den
>>>>>> Spezifikationen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
>>>>
>>>> style='font-size:10.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
>>>>
>>>> style='font-size:10.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:10.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Verdana'>Mit freundlichen
>>>>
>>>> Grüßen</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:10.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Verdana'>Im Auftrag</span></font><font
face=Verdana><span
>>>>>> style='font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:12.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:10.0pt;
>>>>>> font-family:Verdana'>Nomen Nescio</span></font><font
>>
>> face=Verdana><span
>>>>>> style='font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:
>>>>>> 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:
>>>>>> 10.0pt'>Technischer Leiter</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:
>>>>>> 10.0pt'>der XXXXXX-Schule<br>
>>>>>> XXXXXXX Str. YY<br>
>>>>>> 10000 Berlin<br>
>>>>>> Tel.: 030/888888-88<br>
>>>>>> Fax: 030/888888-89</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
>>>>>> style='font-size:
>>>>>> 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </div>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </body>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </html>
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>>>>>
>>>>> This is a well known issue with emails generated by Microsoft
products
>>>>> such as Outlook. You can search the archives but the bottom line is
>>
>> it's
>>>>> a combination of the Outlook namespaced elements like e.g.,
>>>>> <o:p></o:p>
>>>>> and linting code that keeps things clean and more secure for viewing
>>>>> in-line in a web browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> mike
>>>>> The Horde Project
>>>>> http://www.horde.org
>>
>>
https://www.facebook.com/hordeprojecthttps://www.twitter.com/hordeproject
>>>> and it is not possible to do something against it??
>>>
>>> No, not really.
>>>
>>> --
>>> mike
>>> The Horde Project
>>> http://www.horde.org
>>>
https://www.facebook.com/hordeprojecthttps://www.twitter.com/hordeproject
>>>
>>
>> Today I got a mail with two attachments (PDF). In Outlook I see the mail
>> body (1 page, no more) and above the links to the attachments.
>>
>> In Horde I see the message at begin of the mail body and above the
>> links to
>> the attachments. That's ok, but after the message follow many many blank
>> lines. If I scroll the mouse wheel about 35 times(!!) down, then I see
>> the
>> preview of the boths PDF attachments.
>>
>> I think this is not ok.
>
> Feel free to come up with a solution and provide a patch that works,
> doesn't strip actual content or other formatting, and doesn't pose a
> security risk. Bottom line, Word generates completely broken HTML that
> is only designed to work in Microsoft products, when the Word specific
> CSS is included.
>
> --
> mike
I dont have a solution, because I can not programm.
Anyway I will tell you what happens today:
I write a mail (one page). I got back the answer (one page with text) and
wont print out this. I see 18 (!) empty pages.
No problems with egroupware (which is based on Horde) and of course no
problem with outlook.
I look in the header and I find: "X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283)"
Ralph
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283)
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