Hey - I'm trying to update my installation... I can get the IMP and Turba directories to update.. but when I try Kronolith and Horde, I get: esperanto% cvs -z3 update -d cvs [update aborted]: reading config/CVS/Tag: Permission denied is something up with the horde cvs server? Looking at truss, I don't think the problem is on my side. Liam