[imp] What is JAWmail? How ot related to IMP?

[Ryan Gallagher]

Quoting "Ibarra, Michael" <m.ibarra@cdcixis-na.com>:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rudi Benkovic [mailto:rudib@email.si]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:54 AM
> To: Ibarra, Michael
> Cc: imp@lists.horde.org; 'horde@lists.org';
> 'jaw-devel@lists.sourceforge.net'
> Subject: Re: [imp] What is JAWmail? How ot related to IMP?
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 7, 2002, 2:28:07 PM, Ibarra, Michael wrote:
> 
> > This looks like a TOTAL ripoff of Horde/Imp to me. I've visited
> > the website and I did not even see any mention whatsoever to
> > Horde, not even a thank you!
> 
> >docs/README. It's a bit outdated, but ... It's there.
> 
> Oh, sorry, I didn't look in the obscure places.
> 
> >  If you change the "theme" or
> > skin/whatever, isn't it still technically Horde? Why don't you
> > just start a "skins" frontend, or add a plug-in, or just rewrite
> > your own app altogether?
> 
> >THIS IS NOT HORDE OR IMP. It is written from the ground up. If you
> >don't know how the Open Source/Free Software development model goes,
> >please stop moanin'.
> 
> Reminds me of a Cheech and Chong skit. If it looks, smells and taste like
> something...
> 
> > Nonetheless, it seems like a far
> > distant cousin to what the Horde Team has done lately, Good
> > luck.
> 
> >It's not a cousin. It's just a project that aims form similiar goals.
> >Is it wrong if it _looks_ similiar? Is the design of the user
> >interface of Horde copyrighted? No? Okay.
> 
> Look, you wrote this for fun, then why not give credit to those who
> rightfully deserve it. If nothing else, at least give credit to the front
> end designers. On one hand you defend yourself under OS/FSF
> then on the other hand you make excuses stating that no copyrights
> exists. Well?
> 
> -mike

Just want to interject before this spirals downward...

Woah woah... easy guys.  This is nothing to get huffy over.  From my impression,
HORDE/IMP almost begs to be hacked.  The author of JAWmail just choose to share
his hack (no offense intended by the term), and he did so using the correct
liscense so there should be no hard feelings.

It sounds like he had particular interests in mind that didn't align with the
HORDE project goal or audience.  No matter how much code he originally borrowed
it appears that the JAWmail project has branched far enough away from horde/imp
to not "require" a credit.  Sure, one would be nice, but by no means required.

After all, isn't the borrowing of code itself, the ultimate form of flattery?

If an administrator of JAWmail does even the smallest modicum of digging he'll
quickly find horde/imp and be quite aware of where the inspiration arose.

And if you must reply to this please do so to my personal email, as I do not
want to see the list become flooded with this ethics debate.

Good luck coding/hacking ;-)

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Ryan T. Gallagher
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