[imp] Re: imp Digest, Vol 640, Issue 1
Technical Services
tsm at iwml.com
Mon Jan 19 10:29:30 PST 2004
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irlho> Today's Topics:
irlho> 1. Honoring Return Receipt Requests (Chris Bellomy)
irlho> 2. Re: Honoring Return Receipt Requests (Michael M Slusarz)
irlho> 3. SSL or not (Jari Kallonen)
irlho> 4. Re: SSL or not (Jari Kallonen)
irlho> 5. Re: SSL or not (Daniel Eckl)
irlho> 6. Re: SSL or not (Jari Kallonen)
irlho> 7. (no subject) (Jari Kallonen)
irlho> 8. Re. Undefined Constants (Technical Services)
irlho> 9. Re: Re. Undefined Constants (Eric Rostetter)
irlho> 10. infinite loop with shared folders? (Attila Nagy)
irlho> 11. Loading instead of trying to download (Jim Olson)
irlho> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
irlho> Message: 1
irlho> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:23:41 +0000
irlho> From: Chris Bellomy <chris at goodshow.net>
irlho> Subject: [imp] Honoring Return Receipt Requests
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <20040118202341.GB21025 at redshark.goodshow.net>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
irlho> I see that IMP can generate requests for return receipts in the
irlho> compose function. I'm working on a "closed" mail system where
irlho> having IMP honor return receipt requests would be a huge win.
irlho> Has anyone already tackled this feature, or might anyone suggest
irlho> a patch (to message.php, I think) that would make this work?
irlho> cb
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 2
irlho> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:10:13 -0700
irlho> From: Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at bigworm.colorado.edu>
irlho> Subject: Re: [imp] Honoring Return Receipt Requests
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID:
irlho> <20040118201013.lolc4kg8okggc4c4 at bigworm.colorado.edu>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
irlho> Quoting Chris Bellomy <chris at goodshow.net>:
irlho> | I see that IMP can generate requests for return receipts in the
irlho> | compose function. I'm working on a "closed" mail system where
irlho> | having IMP honor return receipt requests would be a huge win.
irlho> | Has anyone already tackled this feature, or might anyone suggest
irlho> | a patch (to message.php, I think) that would make this work?
irlho> Check the archives - someone once mentioned that they were working on this but
irlho> we never saw the final results of their work.
irlho> michael
irlho> ______________________________________________
irlho> Michael Slusarz [slusarz at bigworm.colorado.edu]
irlho> The University of Colorado at Boulder
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 3
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:03:21 +0200
irlho> From: Jari Kallonen <jari.kallonen at motoman.fi>
irlho> Subject: [imp] SSL or not
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <1074495801.400b8139e8fb2 at mail.motoman.fi>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
irlho> Hi,
irlho> We are using Linux RH9.0, apache 1.3.29, php 4.3.2 and IMP 3.2.2.
irlho> I'm planning to publish the client to internet, so that people from our company
irlho> can read their mail outside office.
irlho> Do I have to install SSL if they are using their own laptops?? What security
irlho> drawbacks do we have if they are not using security connection while reading
irlho> mail???
irlho> I know that username and password is sent plain, but if they use their own
irlho> laptops only?
irlho> Jari
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 4
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:42:20 +0200
irlho> From: Jari Kallonen <jari.kallonen at motoman.fi>
irlho> Subject: Re: [imp] SSL or not
irlho> To: Dag Nygren <dag at newtech.fi>
irlho> Cc: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <1074498140.400b8a5c8ea6f at mail.motoman.fi>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
irlho> Lainaus Dag Nygren <dag at newtech.fi>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We are using Linux RH9.0, apache 1.3.29, php 4.3.2 and IMP 3.2.2.
>> > I'm planning to publish the client to internet, so that people from our
>> company
>> > can read their mail outside office.
>> >
>> > Do I have to install SSL if they are using their own laptops?? What
>> security
>> > drawbacks do we have if they are not using security connection while
>> reading
>> > mail???
>> >
>> > I know that username and password is sent plain, but if they use their own
>> > laptops only?
>>
>> Moi Jari,
>>
>> ongelmana on että _kaikki_ lähetetään selväkielisenä!
>> Matkalla on monta paikkaa missä voi kuunnella TCP pakettejä,
>> ja kaikki olisi sitten luettavissa millä pakettisinfferillä tahansa.
>> SSL:n laitto ei ole kovin vaikeata, joten suosittelen kovasti.
>>
>> Terveisin
>> Dag Nygren
>> (Linux konsultti mm.)
>>
>> --
>> Dag Nygren email: dag at newtech.fi
>> Oy Espoon NewTech Ab phone: +358 9 8024910
>> Träsktorpet 3 fax: +358 9 8024916
>> 02360 ESBO Mobile: +358 400 426312
>> FINLAND
>>
irlho> Moi,
irlho> Mukava kirjoittaa suomeksi, arvasin vastauksen
irlho> oikeastaan jo etukäteen. Halusin
irlho> avata keskustelun asiasta, sillä en millään tahdo
irlho> löytää järkevää ohjetta SSL:n
irlho> asennuksesta. Suojattuun yhteyteen tarvitaan ilmeisesti ainakin OpenSSL,
irlho> mod_ssl, jne?? Tiedätkö onko jossain hyvää ohjetta suojatun yhteyden
irlho> rakentamisesta? Varsinkin SSL-certifikaattien luominen menee yli
irlho> ymmärryksen...
irlho> Terveisin,
irlho> Jari
>>
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 5
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:29:39 +0100
irlho> From: Daniel Eckl <daniel.eckl at gmx.de>
irlho> Subject: Re: [imp] SSL or not
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <20040119092939.g45l9qtkwckg48s0 at localhost>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
irlho> Just to mention my opinion:
irlho> This answer does _NOT_ honor the purpose of any mailing list, except mailing
irlho> lists which are planned only for finnish speaking people.
irlho> And I think imp at lists.horde.org on not such a list.
irlho> Daniel
irlho> Zitat von Jari Kallonen <jari.kallonen at motoman.fi>:
>>
>> Lainaus Dag Nygren <dag at newtech.fi>:
>>
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > We are using Linux RH9.0, apache 1.3.29, php 4.3.2 and IMP 3.2.2.
>> > > I'm planning to publish the client to internet, so that people from our
>> > company
>> > > can read their mail outside office.
>> > >
>> > > Do I have to install SSL if they are using their own laptops?? What
>> > security
>> > > drawbacks do we have if they are not using security connection while
>> > reading
>> > > mail???
>> > >
>> > > I know that username and password is sent plain, but if they use their
>> own
>> > > laptops only?
>> >
>> > Moi Jari,
>> >
>> > ongelmana on että _kaikki_ lähetetään selväkielisenä!
>> > Matkalla on monta paikkaa missä voi kuunnella TCP pakettejä,
>> > ja kaikki olisi sitten luettavissa millä pakettisinfferillä tahansa.
>> > SSL:n laitto ei ole kovin vaikeata, joten suosittelen kovasti.
>> >
>> > Terveisin
>> > Dag Nygren
>> > (Linux konsultti mm.)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dag Nygren email: dag at newtech.fi
>> > Oy Espoon NewTech Ab phone: +358 9 8024910
>> > Träsktorpet 3 fax: +358 9 8024916
>> > 02360 ESBO Mobile: +358 400 426312
>> > FINLAND
>> >
>> Moi,
>>
>> Mukava kirjoittaa suomeksi, arvasin vastauksen oikeastaan jo etukäteen.
>> Halusin
>> avata keskustelun asiasta, sillä en millään tahdo löytää järkevää
>> ohjetta SSL:n
>> asennuksesta. Suojattuun yhteyteen tarvitaan ilmeisesti ainakin OpenSSL,
>> mod_ssl, jne?? Tiedätkö onko jossain hyvää ohjetta suojatun yhteyden
>> rakentamisesta? Varsinkin SSL-certifikaattien luominen menee yli
>> ymmärryksen...
>>
>> Terveisin,
>> Jari
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
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irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 6
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:58:01 +0200
irlho> From: Jari Kallonen <jari.kallonen at motoman.fi>
irlho> Subject: Re: [imp] SSL or not
irlho> To: Dag Nygren <dag at newtech.fi>
irlho> Cc: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <1074502681.400b9c19eddd3 at mail.motoman.fi>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
irlho> Lainaus Dag Nygren <dag at newtech.fi>:
>>
>> > Moi,
>> >
>> > Mukava kirjoittaa suomeksi, arvasin vastauksen oikeastaan jo etukäteen.
>> Halusin
>> > avata keskustelun asiasta, sillä en millään tahdo löytää järkevää ohjetta
>> SSL:n
>> > asennuksesta. Suojattuun yhteyteen tarvitaan ilmeisesti ainakin OpenSSL,
>> > mod_ssl, jne?? Tiedätkö onko jossain hyvää ohjetta suojatun yhteyden
>> > rakentamisesta? Varsinkin SSL-certifikaattien luominen menee yli
>> > ymmärryksen...
>>
>>
>> mod_ssl hoitaa sen hyvin tuossa Apachessa.
>> Kannattaa sitten myös käyttää mod_rewrite siihen että
>> jos joku avaa yhteyden normaalina http:na se automaattisesti
>> muutetaan https:ksi. Silloin ei tule vahinkoja.
>>
>> Oman (selfcertified) certifikaatin kanssa on se ongelma että
>> selain kysyy joka yhteyden yhteydessä että kelpaako tällainen.
>> Ei ole meitä haitannut, mutta jos haluaa "kunnon" cert:in joutuu
>> siitä maksamaan jollekin.
>>
>> t Dag
>>
irlho> Käännän apachen seuraavanlaisesti:
irlho> SSL_BASE="/usr/local/ssl" \
irlho> ./configure --enable-module=headers --enable-module=info \
irlho> --enable-module=rewrite --enable-module=speling \
irlho> --enable=shared=ssl --enable=module=ssl
irlho> make
irlho> cd /usr/local/ssl/bin
./openssl req -new >> new.cert.csr
irlho> ./openssl rsa -in privkey.pem -out new.cert.key
irlho> ./openssl x509 -in new.cert.csr -out new.cert.cert \
irlho> -req -signkey new.cert.key -days 999
irlho> cp new.cert.key /usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.key/server.key
irlho> cp new.cert.cert /usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.crt/server.crt
irlho> make certificate TYPE=existing \
irlho> CRT=/usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.crt/server.crt \
irlho> KEY=/usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.key/server.key
irlho> Tämän jälkeen kun yritän asentaa apachea (make install) tulee virheilmoitus:
irlho> /usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.csr exists but is not a directory...
irlho> Ihan kuin asennus hakisi avainta väärästä paikasta, mikähän tässä menee
irlho> pieleen??
irlho> Jari
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 7
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:01:14 +0200
irlho> From: Jari Kallonen <jari.kallonen at motoman.fi>
irlho> Subject: [imp] (no subject)
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <1074502874.400b9cdab3452 at mail.motoman.fi>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
irlho> Sorry Daniel,
irlho> I got carried away when someone wrote finnish. I will write prief summary about
irlho> this subject when problem solved, and try not to write anything finnish anymore
irlho> :-)
irlho> Jari
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 8
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:52:22 +0000
irlho> From: Technical Services <tsm at iwml.com>
irlho> Subject: [imp] Re. Undefined Constants
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID: <372393640.20040119095222 at iwml.com>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
irlho> I get the following errors on the login page before the login form is
irlho> displayed:
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed
irlho> 'SORTARRIVAL' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 503
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed
irlho> 'SORTARRIVAL' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 507
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTDATE - assumed
irlho> 'SORTDATE' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 508
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTFROM - assumed
irlho> 'SORTFROM' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 509
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTSUBJECT - assumed
irlho> 'SORTSUBJECT' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 510
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTSIZE - assumed
irlho> 'SORTSIZE' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 511
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed
irlho> 'SORTARRIVAL' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 503
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed
irlho> 'SORTARRIVAL' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 507
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTDATE - assumed
irlho> 'SORTDATE' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 508
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTFROM - assumed
irlho> 'SORTFROM' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 509
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTSUBJECT - assumed
irlho> 'SORTSUBJECT' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 510
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTSIZE - assumed
irlho> 'SORTSIZE' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 511
irlho> Then after loging in the following page displays only the following
irlho> notices:
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed
irlho> 'SORTARRIVAL' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 503
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed
irlho> 'SORTARRIVAL' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 507
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTDATE - assumed
irlho> 'SORTDATE' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 508
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTFROM - assumed
irlho> 'SORTFROM' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 509
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTSUBJECT - assumed
irlho> 'SORTSUBJECT' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 510
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTSIZE - assumed
irlho> 'SORTSIZE' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 511
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant OP_HALFOPEN - assumed
irlho> 'OP_HALFOPEN' in /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/lib/IMP.php
irlho> on line 132
irlho> Notice: Use of undefined constant OP_ANONYMOUS -
irlho> assumed 'OP_ANONYMOUS' in
irlho> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/lib/IMP.php on line 248
irlho> Best regards,
irlho> Owen Franssen
irlho> Technical Services Manager
irlho> WASP (a division of Insight Web Marketing Ltd.)
irlho> +353 64 54094
irlho> ------------------------------
irlho> Message: 9
irlho> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:39:31 -0600
irlho> From: Eric Rostetter <eric.rostetter at physics.utexas.edu>
irlho> Subject: Re: [imp] Re. Undefined Constants
irlho> To: imp at lists.horde.org
irlho> Message-ID:
irlho> <20040119113931.32k50gcs8w8cc0sc at mail.ph.utexas.edu>
irlho> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
irlho> Quoting Technical Services <tsm at iwml.com>:
>> I get the following errors on the login page before the login form is
>> displayed:
>>
>> Notice: Use of undefined constant SORTARRIVAL - assumed 'SORTARRIVAL' in
>> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/horde/imp/config/prefs.php on line 503
irlho> I've already replied several days ago. You didn't include imap support in
irlho> your php build.
I thought Imp was meant to run on normal POP/SMTP servers also? My
mail server doesnt use IMAP...
Best regards,
Owen Franssen
Technical Services Manager
WASP (a division of Insight Web Marketing Ltd.)
+353 64 54094
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