[imp] identities

Thu May 18 01:39:34 PDT 2006

Quoting Fabrice Grelaud <f.grelaud at drimm.u-bordeaux1.fr>:

> Chris H. wrote:
>> Quoting Grelaud Fabrice <f.grelaud at drimm.u-bordeaux1.fr>:
>>
>>> Quoting Stuart Morrison <sjm at sjmorrison.net>:
>>>
>>>> Grelaud Fabrice wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting "Chris H." <fbsd at 1command.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Fabrice Grelaud <f.grelaud at drimm.u-bordeaux1.fr>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lst_hoe01 at kwsoft.de wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zitat von Fabrice Grelaud <f.grelaud at drimm.u-bordeaux1.fr>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lst_hoe01 at kwsoft.de wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is basically the same requirement we have. See thread 
>>>>>>>>>> on the   mailinglist :
>>>>>>>>>> http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.comp.horde.imp&query=Prepopulated+value+for+%22from_addr%22 Can you check if we are trying to solve the same problem. Maybe i can get some holiday worker to code PHP so we can provide a solution at the   
>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems same thing...
>>>>>>>>> I've locked default-identity for only one identity by users.
>>>>>>>>> However, i need for a particular user another field 
>>>>>>>>> "from_addr" when he
>>>>>>>>> composes message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What about the answer to your post from Jan ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Fabrice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's where i like to use some PHP-coder in the holidays to 
>>>>>>>> get a  enum field in the prefs, preferable for populating it 
>>>>>>>> from all the  configurable backends.
>>>>>>>> This way the user can choose only the sender addresses which 
>>>>>>>> are  defined as aliases for the mailaccount in question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have some php-coders at disposal ? Cause, me, i'm rather 
>>>>>>> newbie in php.
>>>>>>> For my environment (university), it will be great to 
>>>>>>> differentiate identities's options between "personnel" 
>>>>>>> (multiple identity) and "student" (only one identity, locked) 
>>>>>>> except particular case as my problem today. Some prefs by 
>>>>>>> group, maybe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I missing something here? If using sendmail on a NIX box, you can
>>>>>> assign aliases for any individual you wish. I have found that IMP
>>>>>> (with an IMAP server) correctly expands the available aliases for
>>>>>> the user. Thereby only permitting the choice of*valid* aliases for
>>>>>> for the sender.
>>>>>> Is this not your desired goal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Chris H.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Fabrice
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was an alias ? My user have his own student's box, i could 
>>>>> attach an alias
>>>>> at this box. Sure... but not in my case where I can't attach a 
>>>>> functionnal
>>>>> address like secretariat at domain.tld to a person, i 've to use a 
>>>>> functionnal
>>>>> box, independent. And now I would like my student compose message 
>>>>> in imp with
>>>>> this address. My problem, default_identity, from_address are locked for
>>>>> students.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's it...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It is not something I have had to do but:
>>>>
>>>> Do you want your student to choose which from_address he is using?
>>>>
>>>> If not and you are using a database preference backend can you not 
>>>> just change the from_address in the relevant record?
>>>>
>>>> If you do want the student to choose the from address I would have 
>>>> thought you could use a custom hook.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Morrison
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In horde, my student have a default_identity whith his student's 
>>> from_address
>>> obtained from LDAP and all locked.
>>> On my mail server, i 've got a virtual_address 
>>> (secretariat_student at domain.tld)
>>> which is redirected towards the student's address.
>>> So, by imp, he receives these own mails and mails from the functionnal box.
>>> The problem: He can't send mail with the functionnal from_address 
>>> box, only with
>>> his own student's from-address.
>>> Notice: to date, this is a redirection, but it will be a 
>>> functionnal box shared
>>> by the student with rights access (we use Cyrus imap). Log in horde 
>>> with his
>>> student's account and then see the mails from the shared box. The 
>>> problem is
>>> the same as before, he can't compose message with the good from_address.
>>
>>
>> This is because your mailer daemon (rightfully) does not relay mail for
>> just anybody. You could allow relaying for this one particular individual
>> (and others, of course). If you were using sendmail, for example. You
>> can open the: _virtualusertable_ file and add the following:
>> secretariat_student at domain.tld   yourusersemailname at real.tld
>> You could also open the: _trusted-users_ file and simply add their name
>> there. But this probably would not completely resolve your situation.
>> You might also get away with simply adding their _real_ email address
>> to sendmails _access_ file. eg; the line:
>> yourusersemailname at real.tld OK
>> Give it a try. If I have understood your goal(s) correctly, one of
>> these suggestions should do the trick.
>>
>> Beast wishes,
>> Chris H.
>>
> Hi,
>
> i'm not sure to understand...
> I use postfix and in virtual_alias_map i got a redirect file where:
> secretariat_student at domain.tld   studentname at domain.tld
> Thus, all messages sended to the functionnal address are redirected 
> to student box.
> In imp, my student 've only one identity (his student's identity with 
> his student's address, default policy for our students).
> So when he composes a message from imp, the from_address is 
> studentname at domain.tld (the default identity which is locked).
> Is that possible that this particular student compose message with 
> from_address secretariat_student at domain.tld ?
>
> Jan write this:
> "Change the from_addr to be an 'enum' preference type instead of 
> 'text', and fill the 'enum' parameter with the correct values from 
> the db based on Auth::getAuth()."
>
> that seems to be a track interesting but a little obscure for me.
>

Well, as I know 0 (zero) about postfix. I hesitate to comment further
except to ask; is their server returning a 500 in response to your students
attempts to send mail? Or is your server returning a 500 response?

> Thanks Chris

You are very welcome.

--Chris H.

>
> Regards
> Fabrice
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