[imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus

[John H. Bennett III]

Quoting azurIt <azurit at pobox.sk>:

> ______________________________________________________________
>> Od: "John H. Bennett III" <bennettj at thebennetthome.com>
>> Komu: <imp at lists.horde.org>
>> Dátum: 17.09.2014 07:03
>> Predmet: Re: [imp] Horizontal/Vertical layout focus
>>
>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Quoting John H. Bennett III <bennettj at thebennetthome.com>:
>>>
>>>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting John H. Bennett III <bennettj at thebennetthome.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another gripe I keep getting is the inability of the webmail
>>>>>> client to maintain focus while in the preview window.  People
>>>>>> don't want to have to either double-click a message, or when in
>>>>>> the preview window, click on the scroll bar to scroll through a
>>>>>> message, they would rather be able to click on the layout view,
>>>>>> and once in that view, be able to use the mouse or keyboard keys
>>>>>> to scroll through their message.  Why?  Yeah, because that's what
>>>>>> outlook can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm up for any words or reasons I can tell my users as to why
>>>>>> this isn't possible with horde.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because browser UI elements != OS UI elements.
>>>>>
>>>>> We make use of IFRAMEs (for HTML messages) to segregate
>>>>> potentially dangerous external data (message content) from the
>>>>> rest of the page.  IFRAMEs are handled differently by each
>>>>> browser.  An IFRAME, by default, has no connection/contact to the
>>>>> parent page.  So if you do something in the IFRAME, this has NO
>>>>> EFFECT on the rest of the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Essentially, you can think of the message preview as a completely
>>>>> separate application than IMP.  We *try* to capture
>>>>> clicks/keypresses inside of the IFRAME, but this is not always
>>>>> possible (e.g. browser issues; for security reasons we may not be
>>>>> able to precisely simulate that click in the parent page).
>>>>>
>>>>> michael
>>>>>
>>>>> ___________________________________
>>>>> Michael Slusarz [slusarz at horde.org]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, OK, thank you for explaining, but when using Outlook Web
>>>> Access, you don't have this issue, no matter if you are using a
>>>> MAC, or Windows PC.  Once you change the focus to the preview pane,
>>>> you are able to scroll with the mouse, or by using the keyboard keys
>>>
>>> And I'm also confused because you can scroll with the mouse and the
>>> keyboard keys using IMP.  Have been able to forever.
>>>
>>> michael
>>>
>>> ___________________________________
>>> Michael Slusarz [slusarz at horde.org]
>>>
>>
>> Not in the preview window.  If you are viewing a message in the
>> preview window, and click within the preview window area, then hit the
>> down arrow key, you are moved to the next email message.  Hitting the
>> page down key, you are taken to the last email shown on your screen.
>> If you hit end, then you are taken to your last email.  You can, or at
>> least I can, only move within the preview window, by cicking on the
>> scroll bar.  Of course, double-clicking on the message and having that
>> as the main focus, enables you to scroll by any method.
>>
>> I have this behavior with Chrome and IE-11, and on a MAC using Safari.
>>
>> Please know that I am only asking to try to better explain to people
>> how to better use the horde webmail system versus what most used to
>> use in Outlook.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> I'm able to scroll with mouse in Firefox on linux and i even don't  
> have to focus right iframe - Firefox is scrolling that iframe, where  
> the mouse pointer is. But i'm not able to scroll with keyboard too.
>
> azur
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Not sure if my first email went out.  This looks to be a problem on my  
side with mouse scrolling.  I will check that on my various PC's.