[dev] taglines

Jon Parise jon@horde.org
Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:50:23 -0400


On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 02:38:43PM -0400, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:

> What are people's opinions on the taglines at the bottom of
> most of the pages right now (the "Internet Messaging Program
> (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs" links)?

[snip]
 
> So I'm thinking we might be better of nuking them. Opinions?

No objections here.

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Subject: Re: [dev] taglines

Maybe adding an optional "Powered by Horde" in the login screen will be nice... 
I mean, you guys do deserve the credit, it was a lot of work :-)

Quoting Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

> What are people's opinions on the taglines at the bottom of most of the pages
> 
> right now (the "Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs" links)?
> 
> I'm thinking that maybe they don't mesh too well with the rest of the look
> and 
> code right now; they're not configurable, use names for the apps which 
> generally don't show to users anymore, and give people who may have no idea
> 
> what Horde is links to the site, which may be more confusing than not.
> 
> So I'm thinking we might be better of nuking them. Opinions?
> 
> -chuck
> 
> --
> "There is a river of blood between them." - A member of RAWA 
> (http://www.rawa.org) on the difference between the people of Afghanistan and
> 
> the criminal government of Afghanistan.
> 
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Subject: Re: [dev] taglines

Zitat von Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

> So I'm thinking we might be better of nuking them. Opinions?

I don't agree. I like the idea that users know what program they use and get a 
link to the corresponding homepage. It's the same with the original application 
names.
See it like a sort of marketing. ;-)

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Subject: Re: [dev] taglines


I do believe it should be custimizable. I wouldn't mind changing it, and for 
those that wish to nuke it they can do so. It would probably be just as easy to 
make it this way than it is to remove it. I'd have a patch to submit already, 
but I'm at work :)

-Alex


Quoting Julian Jares <julian@jares.com.ar>:

> Maybe adding an optional "Powered by Horde" in the login screen will be
> nice... 
> I mean, you guys do deserve the credit, it was a lot of work :-)
> 
> Quoting Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:
> 
> > What are people's opinions on the taglines at the bottom of most of the
> pages
> > 
> > right now (the "Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs" links)?
> > 
> > I'm thinking that maybe they don't mesh too well with the rest of the
> look
> > and 
> > code right now; they're not configurable, use names for the apps which 
> > generally don't show to users anymore, and give people who may have no
> idea
> > 
> > what Horde is links to the site, which may be more confusing than not.
> > 
> > So I'm thinking we might be better of nuking them. Opinions?
> > 
> > -chuck
> > 
> > --
> > "There is a river of blood between them." - A member of RAWA 
> > (http://www.rawa.org) on the difference between the people of Afghanistan
> and
> > 
> > the criminal government of Afghanistan.
> > 
> > -- 
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> > Frequently Asked Questions: http://horde.org/faq/
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Julian
> 
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Subject: Re: [dev] Documentation

Quoting Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

> Quoting Jon Parise <jon@horde.org>:
> 
> > Okay, I'll agree with that.  That's how the documentation is
> > currently organized, anyway, so no more work is involved. =)
> 
> It might be good to be able to build chunks of the documentation for
> inclusion 
> with tarballs. But I think a lot of people will go to the website for the
> docs, 

I agree.

> where it makes sense to be able to link into individual sections of it, but
> 
> it's going to be in one place anyway.
> 

I think it would also be a good idea to make downloadable tarballs of the 
complete html documentation when it is finalized and/or created. This way 
others can mirror the documentation locally. Ex, php manual. Of course, it may 
be that way already and I don't' know it. Nonetheless I will start on 
documenting those drivers and stuff.


> -chuck
> 
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> (http://www.rawa.org) on the difference between the people of Afghanistan and
> 
> the criminal government of Afghanistan.
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Chuck, here is a tar with the four tools, I added  traceroute  to the
list.  The tar was made in in the horde/nic directory.  menu.php is 
renamed to menu.php.newtools, eveything els is new.  I got started 
on this because I was changing relay.php to us the domain from HTTP_HOST 
rather than example.com.  I included that diff, too.  I like the way 
it works better.  I hope these will be useful for someone.

ed

P.S.  BTW, where are the programing standards for the project?  I 
      should probably have made them compliant before sending. 


Quoting Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

| Quoting Edwin Culp <eculp@EnContacto.Net>:
| 
| > I morphed a few extra NIC tools for the windows folks in the office.
| > 
| >      o- whois to check domains, existent and non-existent
| >      o- Convert IP to Host and verify reverse look-up. 
| >      o- eMail address varification ( Just checks the result of rcpt to:
| >         there may be a better way.  This isn't infalible.
| > 
| > Very simple and unassuming, if anyone would like the respective php and
| inc
| > files from /NIC, I'll be glad to share so they can be improved, if anyone
| 
| > is interested. I could also use icons for them, I'm not very graphically
| > creative :-)
| 
| Please do submit these! We'll come up with icons from somewhere...
| 
| -chuck
| 
| --
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| (http://www.rawa.org) on the difference between the people of Afghanistan and
| 
| the criminal government of Afghanistan.
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Subject: Re: [dev] taglines

Quoting Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

| What are people's opinions on the taglines at the bottom of most of the pages
| 
| right now (the "Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs" links)?
| 
| I'm thinking that maybe they don't mesh too well with the rest of the look
| and 
| code right now; they're not configurable, use names for the apps which 
| generally don't show to users anymore, and give people who may have no idea
| 
| what Horde is links to the site, which may be more confusing than not.
| 
| So I'm thinking we might be better of nuking them. Opinions?
| 
| -chuck
| 
| --
| "There is a river of blood between them." - A member of RAWA 
| (http://www.rawa.org) on the difference between the people of Afghanistan and
| 
| the criminal government of Afghanistan.
| 
| -- 
| Horde Developers mailing list: http://horde.org/
| Frequently Asked Questions: http://horde.org/faq/
| To unsubscribe, mail: dev-unsubscribe@lists.horde.org
| 

How about something along the lines of:

<?
$vdomain = strtolower(preg_replace('|^mail\.|i', '', getenv('HTTP_HOST')));
$conf['sitename'] = $vdomain ;
?>
<div align="center">
<a class="menuitem" target="_blank" href="http://<?= $vdomain . "/" ?>"><?=
$vdomain . ' ' . $[Program]_VERSION ?></a>
</div>
</body>
</html>

This assumes that everyone uses mail.domainname.com.  They do, don't they?:-)

ed




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