[dev] Growler fade effect

[Jan Schneider]

Zitat von Ben Klang <ben at alkaloid.net>:

> On May 19, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Jan Schneider wrote:
>
>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>
>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really don't like the fade effect if hovering over a growler  
>>>>>> notification, and it doesn't add anything to the user  
>>>>>> experience either.
>>>>>> Can we please remove this again, Michael?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very useful (I would say essential) for two reasons:
>>>>> 1.) Reading a message in the preview pane - you get to the  
>>>>> bottom of the message, and the bottom right corner is entirely  
>>>>> unreadable until you either wait for the notification(s) to  
>>>>> close automatically (waste of time), click on the individual  
>>>>> close buttons (annoying, too much effort), or by simply hovering  
>>>>> the mouse over the notification (easiest).
>>>>> 2.) Composing a message is impossible when a notification  
>>>>> appears (generally auto-save notification) and you are at the  
>>>>> bottom line of the compose window.  Again, it is a very  
>>>>> simple/quick fix to simply position cursor over notification,  
>>>>> and you are able to see the text again.
>>>>
>>>> It makes more sense now that I see the rationale behind it.
>>>>
>>>> There is still a major problem with this: if you want to do  
>>>> anything with the notification, e.g. closing it or clicking an  
>>>> embedded link, or using an embedded form, it's next to impossible  
>>>> now to do any of this, because you can hardly see any  
>>>> notification elements anymore.
>>>> The reason you mention are valid, but that one is a showstopper.
>>>
>>> Possible solutions:
>>> 1. Give notifications some transparency at all times.
>>> 2. Don't make as transparent over mouseover.
>>
>> How would that help? Either the transparency is too small to read  
>> the text below it, or too high to read the text inside. Beside  
>> that, I'm fine with a slight default transparency.
>>
>> FWIW, we already have transparency in the SAPO theme for Kronolith,  
>> and it's even worse there, so much that they've turned off  
>> transparency completely (with or without hover).
>
> I haven't seen the effect directly yet, so pardon my ignorance,  
> but...would a compromise be that you can click anywhere on the  
> notification (other than a link in the notification text) to dismiss  
> the notification?  If the convenience issue is that you don't want  
> to have to find the "close" control, this might be a working solution.

I didn't want to get this into the same discussion, but yes, that is  
another change I'd like to see.

Jan.

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