[dev] [commits] Horde branch master updated. content-1.0.0alpha1-55-g737d6d8

Jan Schneider jan at horde.org
Tue Mar 15 10:26:35 UTC 2011


Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:

> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>
>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>
>>> Sounds like Gunnar is working out the details of his solution.   
>>> But I am NOT going to manually enter entries into both CHANGELOG  
>>> and package.xml.  You are asking for *3* separate descriptions for  
>>> a commit (the commit message itself, CHANGELOG, and package.xml).   
>>> We should be writing 1, or at most 2, messages.  Adding yet  
>>> another place to maintain this information is a giant step backward.
>>
>> Until we have a solution, please update both, otherwise we're going  
>> to really mess up with this many package.xml files we have now.
>
> Is there a reason why this can't be done when preparing a release  
> (like we have done for years)?

Despite Gunnar's great components tools, releasing is still a *lot* of  
manual work. This is error prone and it's easy to forget a step, a  
file, or even a complete application (like timeobjects for the alpha  
releases).

Beside that, depending on whether you only update package.xml or only  
CHANGES, the release master has either to go through 74 package.xml  
files to update CHANGES, or even worse, go through CHANGES and split  
up the notes to the correct one of 74 package.xml files.

I'm really not asking too much, updating two files is a  
5-seconds-cut-and-paste action.

>>> Either CHANGELOG needs to be automatically generated from  
>>> package.xml or vice versa.  At a minimum, we should chop all old  
>>> CHANGELOG entries anyway (e.g. H3 and previous), or at least move  
>>> these changes to a different file (CHANGELOG.OLD).
>>
>> I'm not sure what that one has to do with the other. And I don't  
>> see a reason why we shouldn't keep the complete changelogs in a  
>> single file.
>
> Why do we care about changelog entries from Horde version 1 in the  
> current release?  It's just unnecessary bloat.  Makes it difficult  
> to search/grep the file also, since you will get all sorts of false  
> positives for things that became irrelevant years ago.

A complete changelog is a proud sign of a long history IMHO and still  
informative in many cases. And moving part of this to a different file  
doesn't help you with false positives when doing search/grep.

Jan.

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