[dev] Resetting sort order in IMP

[Jan Schneider]

Zitat von Ronan SALMON <rsalmon at mbpgroup.com>:

> Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org> a écrit :
>
>> Zitat von Ronan SALMON <rsalmon at mbpgroup.com>:
>>
>>> Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IIRC there used to be some option to reset the sort criterion
>>>>>>>>> in IMP, i.e. to sort by arrival again. Has this gone? I
>>>>>>>>> didn't find anything in the changelog.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right click on header bar in dynamic view.  There should be a
>>>>>>>> clear sort link in traditional view.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yikes. :) Can we add this to the "Other" menu button?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I explicitly did not do this because that setting doesn't belong
>>>>>> in there.  *All* of our sorting options are currently contained
>>>>>> in the header bar - locating a sorting option elsewhere is
>>>>>> confusing and unintuitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it's just me, but I found the context menu on the sort
>>>>> header even less intuitive. Though I now remember that you even
>>>>> mentioned this place in the past.
>>>>> The "Other" entry might not be intuitive, but while searching for
>>>>> that link, this was the first place I looked, lacking any other
>>>>> options that would have made sense to me. Maybe we can put them
>>>>> in both places.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we need this option in two places.  Especially since
>>>> it is a rarely used option: based on your experience, it took you
>>>> months, if not years, to figure out that this has changed.  Can't
>>>> remember when I changed this, but it was probably at a minimum
>>>> last year.
>>
>> True.
>>
>>>> This touches a bit on a very interesting UI discussion regarding
>>>> the Win 8 task manager, especially regarding designing from the
>>>> perspective of most used features:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/13/the-windows-8-task-manager.aspx
>>
>> That's an interesting read, and a nice solution for one our common
>> problems: a diverse user group.
>>
>>>> (The earlier post about redesigning file operations is also
>>>> interesting, whether you agree or disagree with what they came up
>>>> with).
>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you want something like the vertical layout sort dropdown
>>>>>> (which doesn't currently contain Clear Sort either).
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that's fine too, and I was looking for something like that
>>>>> during the search. But I don't know where to put this in the
>>>>> horizontal view.
>>>>
>>>> Try what I committed.  I stuck it next to the select all box,
>>>> since that is the only column that doesn't have sorting semantics
>>>> associated with it.  Additionally, I made it a more generic menu
>>>> so we can stick other stuff there in the future (labeling the
>>>> dropdown with 'Sort' is very confusing in this view).
>>>
>>> IMHO, that's definitely not intuitive. End users will never find
>>> out where to click to get the sort menu. They will never realize
>>> that such menu exists.
>>> And I find very handy (since I'm using it :-)) the original
>>> behaviour "Right click on header bar in dynamic view".
>>>
>>> I like the sort menu, but I think this should go in the "Other" menu.
>>
>> I don't agree. I like that solution. This was actually the second
>> place where I looked for such an entry after the "Others" menu.
>> One tiny issue though: the icon that highlights the current sort
>> order is the drop down icon, which is a bit irritating and makes you
>> want to click on it for further options. It should probably some
>> tick icon.
>
> I agree, the drop down icon is a bit irritating and not intuitive.
>
> What about displaying the "Sort" menu on a right click on header bar ?

How would that help if you don't even think of a possible context menu  
in the header bar?

Jan.

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