[dev] Resetting sort order in IMP

[Ronan SALMON]

Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org> a écrit :

> Zitat von Ronan SALMON <rsalmon at mbpgroup.com>:
>
>> Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org> a écrit :
>>
>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>
>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IIRC there used to be some option to reset the sort criterion  
>>>>>>>> in IMP, i.e. to sort by arrival again. Has this gone? I  
>>>>>>>> didn't find anything in the changelog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right click on header bar in dynamic view.  There should be a  
>>>>>>> clear sort link in traditional view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yikes. :) Can we add this to the "Other" menu button?
>>>>>
>>>>> I explicitly did not do this because that setting doesn't belong  
>>>>> in there.  *All* of our sorting options are currently contained  
>>>>> in the header bar - locating a sorting option elsewhere is  
>>>>> confusing and unintuitive.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it's just me, but I found the context menu on the sort  
>>>> header even less intuitive. Though I now remember that you even  
>>>> mentioned this place in the past.
>>>> The "Other" entry might not be intuitive, but while searching for  
>>>> that link, this was the first place I looked, lacking any other  
>>>> options that would have made sense to me. Maybe we can put them  
>>>> in both places.
>>>
>>> I don't think we need this option in two places.  Especially since  
>>> it is a rarely used option: based on your experience, it took you  
>>> months, if not years, to figure out that this has changed.  Can't  
>>> remember when I changed this, but it was probably at a minimum  
>>> last year.
>
> True.
>
>>> This touches a bit on a very interesting UI discussion regarding  
>>> the Win 8 task manager, especially regarding designing from the  
>>> perspective of most used features:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/13/the-windows-8-task-manager.aspx
>
> That's an interesting read, and a nice solution for one our common  
> problems: a diverse user group.
>
>>> (The earlier post about redesigning file operations is also  
>>> interesting, whether you agree or disagree with what they came up  
>>> with).
>>>
>>>>> Maybe you want something like the vertical layout sort dropdown  
>>>>> (which doesn't currently contain Clear Sort either).
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that's fine too, and I was looking for something like that  
>>>> during the search. But I don't know where to put this in the  
>>>> horizontal view.
>>>
>>> Try what I committed.  I stuck it next to the select all box,  
>>> since that is the only column that doesn't have sorting semantics  
>>> associated with it.  Additionally, I made it a more generic menu  
>>> so we can stick other stuff there in the future (labeling the  
>>> dropdown with 'Sort' is very confusing in this view).
>>
>> IMHO, that's definitely not intuitive. End users will never find  
>> out where to click to get the sort menu. They will never realize  
>> that such menu exists.
>> And I find very handy (since I'm using it :-)) the original  
>> behaviour "Right click on header bar in dynamic view".
>>
>> I like the sort menu, but I think this should go in the "Other" menu.
>
> I don't agree. I like that solution. This was actually the second  
> place where I looked for such an entry after the "Others" menu.
> One tiny issue though: the icon that highlights the current sort  
> order is the drop down icon, which is a bit irritating and makes you  
> want to click on it for further options. It should probably some  
> tick icon.

I agree, the drop down icon is a bit irritating and not intuitive.

What about displaying the "Sort" menu on a right click on header bar ?

Ronan.