[Off-topic] Re: [horde] Newbie question

[Paul Cooper]

On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 09:05, Emre Bastuz wrote:
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I´ve been reading this thread about how Horde provides
> perm mechanisms, templates, functions, etc. and I cant´t
> help myself thinking of the phplib.
> 
> The phplib was also a set of useful tools, so I invested
> time into learning it 1-2 years ago.
> 
> Now it seems the lib is not really bein maintained anymore.
> I believe it´s "dead".

That's the way it goes sometimes with OSS projects - at least you still
have the source and can take over the project if it's critical to you
(or your business). 

> Some of the functions have moved into PEAR, others have not.
> I am afraid putting time into learning Horde might give the
> same result after some time as with the phplib: some parts move into
> PEAR, others don´t and one ends up working with multiple components
> that are not fully interoperable.
> 
> All the things the Horde team has created look great and work great.
> 
> Still - why don´t you try to stick with PEAR as much as possible (this
> seems to be the major repository of functions, also for the future)?
> What about the template system from PEAR ? Why not use that one ?
> 
> PEAR also has a perm system - why don´t you commit your work to this
> system or try to expand the existing perm functions ?
> 
> I believe / I´m afraid the only thing left after a while will be PEAR and
> not many people will be willing to invest time into "proprietary" frameworks.

One of the key things with PEAR is that it explicitly isn't interested
in 'application frameworks' - it's aim is to be a loosely coupled
collection of utility classes. So it wouldn't be possible to put the
whole Horde framework into PEAR (let alone the applications).

Paul

> Don´t misunderstand me: Horde is great. It would just be a pitty to see it
> being discontinued like phplib is now.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Emre
> 
> 
> 
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