[horde] [imp] default reply behavior in dimp/imp

Michael M Slusarz slusarz at horde.org
Tue Sep 6 16:44:07 UTC 2011


Quoting Brent <impuser at bitrealm.com>:

> Quoting Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>
>> Quoting Simon Brereton <simon.brereton at buongiorno.com>:
>>
>>> I couldn't agree more.  I'm not sure that I personally care one  
>>> way or the other.  But I know users care a great deal (there's a  
>>> Chief Exec in the UK at the moment getting roasted because of an  
>>> email he replied-to-all when he wanted to forward it and he's  
>>> using the ridiculous defence that his account was hacked).  Not  
>>> that this would have prevented his stupidity.  But as an admin,  
>>> I'd like to be able to go into the configuration and set the  
>>> default behaviour.  I use IMP, Gnome, Gmail, Outlook,  Evolution  
>>> and a couple of mobile clients all day long and the two I find  
>>> most annoying are the ones with this behaviour.  Programmatically,  
>>> it isn't difficult, and if I had the skills, I'd patch it myself.   
>>> If the Horde team aren't willing to compromise their principles, I  
>>> can live with that - I just hope someone can provide a patch.  But  
>>> ultimately, I'd like to see it as a configuration option.
>>
>> As mentioned before, this is *not* something that can (or will) be  
>> a configuration option.  A blanket approach locking the reply  
>> button into the wrong behavior (e.g. Reply to Sender for a message  
>> with multiple recipients) is simply not acceptable.
>>
>> michael
>
> Zowie.  The reply button is currently locked.  In your opinion, it  
> is locked into the correct behavior, other people feel it is locked  
> into the wrong behavior.  So, we are at an impasse.  Because of the  
> belief in how the button should behave, it would seem that the  
> button should be customizable with the default being "Reply to All".  
>  As the developers seem unwilling to change the behaviour of the  
> button, perhaps just changing the text to "Reply To ..." would  
> probably work for everybody as it would hopefully make people THINK  
> (if even for a second) about what the button is about to do?

It's not "locked".  Anybody can go into the source code and change it  
as they please.  Can't do that in Outlook.  Can't do that in Gmail  
(not that it matters, but for the record Gmail only has A SINGLE REPLY  
BUTTON, albeit in a horrible location).  Maybe you can do it in  
thunderbird, but not easy.

I have just not yet heard a convincing argument for it to be  
configurable.  Conversely, this is undesired since one of the options  
given would encourage an indisputably improper default behavior:  
replying to a message sent to a message list (or a message with  
multiple recipients) should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER  
EVER go to the original poster **UNLESS** there is a conscious,  
proactive decision to do so.  NEVER.  It simply can not be a default  
decision, or the "preferred" button to press (i.e. it is displayed  
first).

michael

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