[horde] A horde messenger Re: horde replacement

[Andreas Mauser]

Hi,

----- Nachricht von Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck at horde.org> ---------
   Datum: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:44:50 -0400
     Von: Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck at horde.org>
Betreff: Re: [horde] A horde messenger Re: horde replacement
      An: horde at lists.horde.org


> Quoting Andreas Mauser <andreas at mauser.info>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ----- Nachricht von Ralf Lang <lang at b1-systems.de> ---------
>>  Datum: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 08:35:03 +0100
>>    Von: Ralf Lang <lang at b1-systems.de>
>> Betreff: [horde] A horde messenger Re:  horde replacement
>>     An: horde at lists.horde.org
>>
>>
>>>> By the way, Horde developers, I still miss the Horde messenger. You dont
>>>> want to implement a messenger in Horde, do you? I would really
>>>> appreciate that, even if you give us a beta.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What do you mean by messenger? Something like a chat application?
>>> I don't see that soon. I think there was some alpha in  
>>> horde3/incubator but I don't remember the name.
>>
>> Yes, a small chat application inside Horde. There are some  
>> Groupware outside having such chat application and I miss such in  
>> Horde.
>>
>>> In another language/framework/environment we used xmpp (jabber)  
>>> for debugging, as a part of a die handler and for certain types of  
>>> alerts.
>>>
>>> I have looked around, there is only one PHP XMPP library I found  
>>> and it's been unmaintained for years. We probably would have to  
>>> implement parts of the protocol for one-shot jabber messages to  
>>> rooms or users. There is more stuff for IRC but it's also  
>>> unmaintained and mostly PHP4 stuff.
>>
>> But wouldn't it be an easy task to implement e.g. some jabber or  
>> such into Horde? I mean, Horde is already there, so the base of all  
>> is already there, and the chat protocols are already there. It  
>> would be so practical just drop a message to someone else when one  
>> sees the other online.
>>
>>> Sorry, I don't see this chat client coming in the near future but  
>>> maybe you want to wrap some java chat into a minimum horde app for  
>>> automatic auth. I could help with that.
>>
>> I run a cgiirc in parallel but I dont know how to implement it into  
>> a Horde app. Also I think about when I open the cgiirc page its  
>> more or less a bigger page than I am used to from a chat client,  
>> you know, a small window with buddies in there.
>
> On this topic - I'm curious if people are looking for something that  
> specifically interoperates with other chat clients/networks (like  
> jabber/IRC/AIM), or if the ask is for something more like  
> Campfire/Convore - an internal team that, that probably lives only  
> inside Horde for logged-in users?

My request was for an internal chat messenger, only avail for logged  
in horde users (like MS office messenger in basic configuration, not  
able to contact outer world, for security reasons)

Andreas