[horde] Couple of Items - Signature When Replying, Not Authorized To Use IMP

Jens-U. Mozdzen jmozdzen at nde.ag
Wed Oct 30 11:32:56 UTC 2013


Hi Michael,

Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
> Quoting "Jens-U. Mozdzen" <jmozdzen at nde.ag>:
>
>> And actually those company policies needn't be "misguided" - there  
>> are countries (Germany being one) where certain signature  
>> information is actually required by law. Not under every  
>> circumstances, but instead of risking expensive law suites, it is  
>> easier to tell the general company user to add a company-designed  
>> signature to every business email.
>
> The whole "this is required by law" argument makes me laugh.  At  
> least in the current American law landscape.
>
> In (one of) my other lives, I am an attorney.  I used to work on  
> large civil cases in Federal Court - these are the cases between  
> Fortune 500 companies with large delegations of expensive private  
> attorneys.
>
> There was not a single case I ever dealt with where the "disclaimer"  
> language in an e-mail meant anything.  It is absolutely pointless.   
> If an e-mail is sent, and there is a copy somewhere, it is most  
> likely discoverable.  (In the rare case it it isn't, it has  
> *nothing* to do with the disclaimer.)  These kind of disclaimers are  
> analogous to shrink-wrap contracts and/or contracts of adhesion -  
> with the caveat that e-mail disclaimers are even less enforceable  
> since there generally is not any consideration involved.
>
> So with my e-mail client developer hat on, I can do things like  
> design the client so that you can't do these kinds of inane,  
> pointless actions - at least by default.  Its my small effort to  
> help clean up e-mail and make it more useable.

we're probably talking about different things here. You mention  
"disclaimers" - I'm with you on that. But the original discussion was  
about contact info in the signature part and it was said that it isn't  
needed when you already know the sender, so to drop sigs altogether  
when *replying*. That's the topic I was writing on.

I feel you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Regards,
Jens



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