[horde] Many Issues with Groupware 5.1.1

[Jens Grüntjes]

Zitat von Nwatson99 <admin at ar15armory.com>:

First of all it would be very helpful if you tried to answer in  
context. Your "reply" to several mails is extremely hard to read.

> I am sorry but I have to ask, Does anything work correctly around here??
> E-mail list is jumble and if this is your idea of a forum forum type
> software, would you folks like some help in setting up a real site that
> works properly??
What forum are you talking about? This is a mailing list. And the  
developers of horde for sure helped people in setting a site up. Read  
the archives of the list and you'll see what they did. They offer  
consultancy for companies if you pay them. So the pretty sure know how  
to set up horde properly.
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> Been discussed to death.  It's a design decision.  Please read the
> archives./
> Decision from you, was the customers asked before hacking and slicing a
> perfectly good working system??
> How about  link, instead read the archives maybe you would be helpful then?
If the same question is discussed over and over there is hardly a  
chance that if you ask for 101st time the opinions of all developers  
and all users change. Reading the archives and searching for your  
problem *before* posting is usual in mailing list (even in forums).
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> /I don't know what version you had or which you have now (version numbers
> are in the configuration page), but it sounds ancient.  Horde and web GUIs
> in general have come a long way.  Since version 4 horde and imp look more
> like stand-alone clients.  Therefore it shouldn't open anything in a new
> window it should be available in the reading pane.  From where you can
> blacklist or junk to your heart's content without even moving your mouse./
> Things are nice and streamlined, but at the expense of cutting the guts out
> of a perfectly good working sytem.
Nobody forced you to upgrade. Things were of course nice in Windows  
3.11 (replace this by an arbitrary old-fashioned OS or window manager)  
but I guess nobody seriously uses it anymore.
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> This is configurable in the administrator and preferences dialogues./
> NO it is not, the dynamic has very limited admin and configuration features,
> things you are use to having now says to configure then you need some kind
> of basic view and judging by the screen shots I have seen looks like a trash
> can of Horde e-mail.
Feel free to change the source of your installation. By the way I  
think *you* are the only one who thinks that it "looks like a trash  
can of Horde e-mail". Maybe it is better for you to switch over to  
another webmailer, maybe Microsoft Exchange is an option for you? I'm  
sure that the developers at Microsoft are more kind concerning your  
special wishes.
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> I think most people are happy with the improvements.  If it doesn't suit
> you feel free to downgrade.  I'm willing to bet your underlying OS has
> changed its look and feel just as much in the last few years./
> Speak for yourself, there are a bunch of webmasters not happy with
> eliminating basic features and then reversing the signature was insane.
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