[horde] Many Issues with Groupware 5.1.1

[Jens Grüntjes]

Zitat von admin at ar15armory.com:

> Quoting Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:47:07 +0000:
>
>> Citat af Nwatson99 <admin at ar15armory.com>:
>>
>>> I am sorry but I have to ask, Does anything work correctly around here??
>>> E-mail list is jumble and if this is your idea of a forum forum type
>>> software, would you folks like some help in setting up a real site that
>>> works properly??
>>>
>>> /
>>> Been discussed to death.  It's a design decision.  Please read the
>>> archives./
>>> Decision from you, was the customers asked before hacking and slicing a
>>> perfectly good working system??
>>> How about  link, instead read the archives maybe you would be helpful
>>> then?
>>>
>>> /I don't know what version you had or which you have now (version
> numbers
>>> are in the configuration page), but it sounds ancient.  Horde and web
>>
>> GUIs
>>> in general have come a long way.  Since version 4 horde and imp look
>>
>> more
>>> like stand-alone clients.  Therefore it shouldn't open anything in a
> new
>>> window it should be available in the reading pane.  From where you can
>>> blacklist or junk to your heart's content without even moving your
>>
>> mouse./
>>> Things are nice and streamlined, but at the expense of cutting the guts
>>> out
>>> of a perfectly good working sytem.
>>>
>>> /
>>> This is configurable in the administrator and preferences dialogues./
>>> NO it is not, the dynamic has very limited admin and configuration
>>> features,
>>> things you are use to having now says to configure then you need some
>>
>> kind
>>> of basic view and judging by the screen shots I have seen looks like a
>>> trash
>>> can of Horde e-mail.
>>>
>>> /
>>> I think most people are happy with the improvements.  If it doesn't
> suit
>>> you feel free to downgrade.  I'm willing to bet your underlying OS has
>>> changed its look and feel just as much in the last few years./
>>> Speak for yourself, there are a bunch of webmasters not happy with
>>> eliminating basic features and then reversing the signature was insane.
>>>
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>>
>> Hey
>>
>> my two punds of words.....
>>
>> I have read your mail to this list.
>> Some of your questions shows that you didn't even try to setup some of
>> your
>> preferences.
>> Some of the things needs to be enabled in the admin settings too.
>> And yes it can be a bit complicated. And not always right on target.
>> Its a bit try and error. But if you really want to. You will quickly
> learn
>> howto.
>>
>> This is not a forum. Its a mailling list.
>> As I see what is happening.
>> Those guys sitting here giving you competent advice.
>> Is at the same time doing serious programming.
>> Some have jobs and other obligations. Families and what else in life.
>> They don't have time and resources to do everything them self.
>> Others do that.
>> There are forums out there about Horde and you will se people there as
> Jan
>> Sneider and Ralf Lang and Michael and others.
>>
>> Please if you are so mad about things.
>> Find something else to spend your valuable time on.
>>
>> /Erling Preben Hansen
>>  
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>
> You people are amazing, I report problems with Horde that I have been using
> since 2005 and all of you had done not a darn thing to assist me other
> than:
> "this has been discussed to death"
> "admin decision"
> "Use the search"
> blah blah blah
>
> Now did Horde Fix these problems they messed up and changed which did not
> benefit Horde is all I want to know????
I don't think *they* messed something up and neither do I think Horde  
did not benefit from the improvements that have been achieved over the  
years. These achievements have only been possible because the  
developers spend their spare time on this project.
If you had made one attempt to describe your problems I'm sure people  
would have assisted you as they assisted me when I had problems. But  
all you do is blaming the developers for changes. That's really strange.
>
> Horde would also benefit with a forums so everything could be quoted
> correctly, properly formatted, and discussesd!
This is your very personal opinion. Feel free to set it up and  
convince the developers to switch from a mailing list to a forum. And  
by the way, most people get along with quoting fairly well.