[horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies

[M. Ryan DiMaria]

Perhaps I am out of my league. What the heck is a TOFU Culture or an MUA?  

I am a simple person that likes things to make sense. My clients and the people I communicate with understand email followed by a signature from the person emailing, reply followed by the signature of the person replying. 

Why on earth would anyone place a signature somewhere else in the sequence of communications?

M. Ryan DiMaria
DiMARIA LAW, APC
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> On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steffen <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Ralf Lang wrote:
>>> On 13.08.2014 23:43, Ryan DiMaria wrote:
>>> For Horde Groupware 5.1.1, my signature is only shown at the end of all history or string of past replies such that my reply does not contain a signature directly below it.  How do I configure the signature to include the signature directly below the reply I am sending?
>> 
>> That happens with a TOFU culture as in most outlook-centric companies.
> 
> Unfortunately several mobile clients implement it the same way. See the message
> 
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:20:12 -0400
> Subject: Re: [horde] How to upgrade to webmail-5.1.5 with PEAR (was Re: HGWE  5.1.5 and HGWE 5.2.0)
> 
>> There is no way in Horde to move signatures up and they are not intended
>> to be moved up. Even in a TOFU scenario, it's not even useful.
>> 
>> Moreover, it's probably a considerable nightmare to properly implement
>> and maintain this including all edge cases.
> 
> It distracts reading, replies are out of context, ...
> 
> In fact, there are traditional MUAs, that cut a message at the signature, so one is unable to respond correctly.
> 
> Sadly, it gets more and more wide spread and I wonder if Horde (and Alpine, Mutt etc.pp) can withstand that pressure, maybe IMP's message composition mobile should be named "Asterix" ;-)
> 
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