[horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies

Sat Aug 30 02:20:15 UTC 2014

On 28-08-2014 22:12, M. Ryan DiMaria wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, all of these MUA's are TOFU based.  These MUA's comprise 
> 99.9% of the MUA's people in the U.S. use whether it be educational, 
> business, professional, government, social sites, judicial, etc. 
>  Hence everyone who uses these MUA's expects TOFU and why it is so odd 
> that Horde doesn't at least have it as an option.  Different cultures 
> for different countries, I guess.  It just looks "foreign" (get it a 
> play on the word "foreign" because no one from the U.S. knows anything 
> but TOFU.)
>
> Thanks for the links.
>

Please, don't top-post.

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>    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:29:20 -0300
>    From: Luis Felipe Marzagao <lfbm.andamentos at gmail.com 
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> Subject: Re: [horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies
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>> On 28-08-2014 01:11, M. Ryan DiMaria wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps I am out of my league. What the heck is a TOFU Culture or an 
>>> MUA?
>>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client
>>
>>> I am a simple person that likes things to make sense. My clients and 
>>> the people I communicate with understand email followed by a 
>>> signature from the person emailing, reply followed by the signature 
>>> of the person replying.
>>>
>>> Why on earth would anyone place a signature somewhere else in the 
>>> sequence of communications?
>>>
>>> M. Ryan DiMaria
>>> DiMARIA LAW, APC
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>>>> On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steffen 
>>>> <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de 
>>>> <mailto:skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Ralf Lang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13.08.2014 23:43, Ryan DiMaria wrote:
>>>>>> For Horde Groupware 5.1.1, my signature is only shown at the end 
>>>>>> of all history or string of past replies such that my reply does 
>>>>>> not contain a signature directly below it.  How do I configure 
>>>>>> the signature to include the signature directly below the reply I 
>>>>>> am sending?
>>>>>>
>>>>> That happens with a TOFU culture as in most outlook-centric companies.
>>>> Unfortunately several mobile clients implement it the same way. See 
>>>> the message
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:20:12 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [horde] How to upgrade to webmail-5.1.5 with PEAR (was 
>>>> Re: HGWE  5.1.5 and HGWE 5.2.0)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no way in Horde to move signatures up and they are not 
>>>>> intended
>>>>> to be moved up. Even in a TOFU scenario, it's not even useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, it's probably a considerable nightmare to properly implement
>>>>> and maintain this including all edge cases.
>>>>>
>>>> It distracts reading, replies are out of context, ...
>>>>
>>>> In fact, there are traditional MUAs, that cut a message at the 
>>>> signature, so one is unable to respond correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, it gets more and more wide spread and I wonder if Horde (and 
>>>> Alpine, Mutt etc.pp) can withstand that pressure, maybe IMP's 
>>>> message composition mobile should be named "Asterix" ;-)
>>>>
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