[horde] Moving emails locally on server

[Andreas Mauser]

----- Nachricht von Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org> ---------
      Datum: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:06:13 -0400
        Von: Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org>
Antwort an: mrubinsk at horde.org
    Betreff: Re: [horde] Moving emails locally on server
         An: Louis-Philippe Allard <lp.allard.1 at gmail.com>
         Cc: horde at lists.horde.org


> Quoting Louis-Philippe Allard <lp.allard.1 at gmail.com>:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Louis-Philippe Allard <lp.allard.1 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hello maillist!
>>>>
>>>> I am using Horde webmail as my main groupware client in a SoHo setting,
>>>> and
>>>> I ucurrently use GMail as my MTA and email backend.  Basically, IMP is
>>>> configured to be Horde's login and connects with my username+password to
>>>> imap.gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> All works well.  I am currently member of 2 maillists (this one and
>>>> another
>>>> project) and I have configured a rule in Horde to move the emails from
>>>> these two maillists into another folder for archival.
>>>>
>>>> In GMail (the webmail, not in Horde) I see those two folders as "labels".
>>>> That's the way Gmail seems to treats those anyways.  What I'd like to do
>>>> is
>>>> to have Horde move them OUT of Gmail into a local folder on the server.
>>>> Basically once I log in Gmail directly, I wouldn't have access to those
>>>> emails because they would have been moved locally on the server.
>>>>
>>>> Any ways to do this?  I tried creating a new mailbox in Horde, then try to
>>>> move items into it, what happens is another label is created in Gmail
>>>> which
>>>> is not the desired result...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gmail does not use folders, only labels. So, no, you can't create a "real"
>>> folder if your only email backend is Gmail. You could either export the
>>> emails from horde (as a mbox file) or if you have a git install (and access
>>> to a "real" IMAP account) you can add the real imap account as an
>>> additional email account and move the emails over via the UI.
>>>
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>> I understand that I cannot create a "folder" in Gmail, but is there not a
>> way to create a mailbox file or folder on the server's filesystem?
>
> No.
>
>> AFAIK
>> all other email clients (thunderbird, MS Outlook, KDE's email client that I
>> cannot recall the name for) can deal with online email accounts and at the
>> same time have a local storage on the C: drive or /home (for *nix
>> machines)...

I used a combination of fetchmail and procmail to

1, fetch all mails from a given account
2, create procmail file for that local user
3, to deliver dedicated mails to dedicated folders

That way you could accomplish your goal(?)

But you need to reconfigura Horde against an imap server, use a MTA, etc.
Its some work if you wish to go that way.

> The difference is, those are desktop clients, running on your  
> personal/local machine. Horde/IMP is running on a server shared with  
> (at least) every webmail user who may or may not even have a  
> physical home directory/account on the box.
>
>> The EXACT equivalent of what I want to do is the "archive" feature in MS
>> Outlook with a .pst file on the C drive...
>
> The closest to this would be what I suggested about exporting the  
> mailbox locally. This gives you a standard mbox file containing the  
> exported messages.

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