[horde] IMP IMAP DB Cache backend lifetime
Arjen de Korte
arjen+horde at de-korte.org
Fri Sep 1 14:35:54 UTC 2017
Citeren Joao S Veiga <jsveiga at rf.com.br>:
> ----- Message from Jens Wahnes <wahnes at uni-koeln.de> ---------
>
>> Joao S Veiga wrote:
>>> Even with very few users, without Frederico's suggestion the cache
>>> in the database will grow forever if not manually cleared (and the
>>> imp-query-imap-cache doesn't help much for old messages/metadata).
>>>
>>> So for the sql cache to properly work in any case, there should be
>>> a way to expire them, as he suggested.
>>
>> I agree that Horde should be able to clean up the mess it created.
>> ;-) But then, OTOH, the Horde configuration already comes with a
>> big "NOT RECOMMENDED" message regarding usage of a SQL database for
>> caching, so go figure.
>>
>
> There is a "NOT RECOMMENDED" for sql in the "Horde Cache"
> configuration option; is that what you mean? My "Horde Cache" uses
> the "File" driver, which is not marked "NOT RECOMMENDED".
>
> But we're talking about the "IMP IMAP Cache", which can use the
> "Horde Cache" (not recommended), or hashtable/nosql/sql
> (recommended) according to imp/backends.php:
>
> * - 'cache': Caching is enabled using the Horde cache (configured in
> * horde/config/conf.php). It is recommended to use either
> * 'hashtable', 'nosql', or 'sql' instead, as these backends
> * have better performance.
> * - 'hashtable': Caching is enabled using the Horde HashTable driver
> * (configured in horde/config/conf.php).
> * The 'cache_lifetime' parameter (integer) can be
> * specified to define the lifetime of the cached message
> * data.
> * - 'nosql': Caching is enabled using the Horde NoSQL database
> * (configured in horde/config/conf.php).
> * - 'sql': Caching is enabled using the Horde SQL database
> (configured in
> * horde/config/conf.php).
>
> Is this information incorrect, and the "IMP IMAP CACHE" shouldn't
> use sql either? In my set up (about 50 users, some with 2GB+ inboxes
> and 20GB+ mailboxes) using MYSQL as the IMP IMAP Cache greatly
> improves the response, with not much impact in CPU usage (I do see
> mysql using a little CPU after I completely wipe out the cache but
> that's expected); but I'm comparing to not using caching at all.
I see the same observation. I only have a few dozen users and in that
case there will be huge improvement if you use configure IMAP cache
'sql' compared to no caching at all. I also tried 'hashtable' and
'nosql' but neither showed a noticeable improvement over 'sql'. In
this case, I actually prefer to use 'sql' for everything, as I need it
anyway on this system and it saves running multiple databases / caches.
> Do you have a reason for not recommending sql for the "IMP IMAP
> Cache", or you thought we were referring to the "Horde Cache"?
I have the feeling that for small installations, configuring an IMAP
cache is more important that which type you use.
> Thanks,
>
> Joao
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