[horde] Is there a real sieve-editor for horde?

Nils horde at bugblatterbeast.de
Sun Dec 31 13:13:39 UTC 2023


Hi Ralf,

thank you very much for your reply and especially for your offer to take 
implementing additional sieve support into consideration.

However, I wonder if I maybe haven't fully configured Ingo and/or mixing 
things up in my memory.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "procmail or the likes". Did 
the horde vacation plugin depend on promail MDA? I just remember 
vacation from a long time ago and I was sure that I've been using cyrus 
and cyrus-sieve back then (before switching to dovecot with pigeonhole 
sieve interpreter).

You've wrote that vacation has been integrated into Ingo. When I select 
"New Rule" the "Do this:" select field only has four options: inbox, 
folder, delete, inbox + folder (the deliver to folder option has nice 
additional options). Also I can mark as read,etc. I can't figure out how 
to create something like this:
> require ["fileinto", "vacation"];
> if header :contains "X-Spam-Flag" "YES" {
>   fileinto "spam";
>   stop;
> }
> vacation
>   :days 1
>   :subject "Abwesenheitsnotiz"
>   :addresses ["horde at bugblatterbeast.de"]
> "Automatische Nachricht...";
I'm totally satisfied with the filing options.

I usually focus on other stuff, but I do free server administration and 
hosting for some non-profit organisations. They share my opinion, that 
it is important to support open source software and to avoid losing 
control over your data. The only reason, they sometimes decide to use an 
exchange server against my advice, is that I can't provide them with a 
configurable automatic reply for holidays and vacations. I can't say for 
sure, if the demand is high enough to justify putting effort into it. 
But I do think it would be appreciated.

Kind regards and all the best wishes for the new year,
Nils





On 12/30/23 17:20, Ralf Lang wrote:
> Hi Nils, vacation has been integrated with Ingo long ago. By design, 
> it's not a sieve editor though today sieve is the primary backend. New 
> installations usually don't do procmail or the likes. I don't even 
> have a procmail test setup anymore.
>
> That said, having a direct to sieve plugin for ingo isn't out of 
> question. Can you describe your use case and what kind of sieve rules 
> you need that are not supported by managing through ingo?
>
> If it's about coexisting with other sources of sieve scripts, that 
> might be possible through multiple different approaches. I personally 
> don't have this requirement so I need input on what is actually wanted 
> and if there is a sufficient ask for it.


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