[imp] semicolon and comma delim issue

Patrick Timmons ptimmons@courriel.polymtl.ca
Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:21:54 -0500


Maybe because you run your web server as nobody@localhost ?

Mike Coughlan wrote:
> 
> Has someone on this list implemented a personal "patch" for the dreaded
> semicolon email separator issue?  If so, can you please pass it on.
> 
> Also, if the semicolon is used to separates groups, can someone tell me why
> the mangled mail is bounced AND sent to nobody@localhost?  I assume that's
> an IMAP issue, but any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Finally, I understand this IMP behavior is by design and to spec, but it's
> killing us here as well.  I agree with the arguments laid out by Rich, but
> on the other hand, as Leif pointed out, one javascript confirm window, "are
> you sure you want to use semicolons?" would provide a great service to
> people who don't read RFC documents, but use MS Outlook.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Mike Coughlan
> 
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:48:58 -0400
> > From: Rich Lafferty <rich@horde.org>
> > To: imp@lists.horde.org
> > Subject: Re: [imp] Semicolons in To: list
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 05:17:32PM -0500, The Raven (lolson@lynx.nisc.cc)
> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:36:01 -0400 (EDT)
> > > > From: Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>
> > > > To: imp@lists.horde.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [imp] Semicolons in To: list
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Jon Parise <jon@csh.rit.edu>:
> > > >
> > > > > It's technically possible (converting the semicolons to commas), but
> I
> > > > > don't see a reason to institute a kludge when the users are clearly
> at
> > > > > fault here.
> > > >
> > > > I'd have to agree - semicolons are clearly, by spec, not valid
> seperators.
> > >
> > > Both valid points, but nevertheless, the complaints will continue, and
> > > when the CEO sends mail to several VP's and only one gets it, I get
> > > it.
> >
> > I don't see how that's relevant; RFC 822 clearly specifies that the
> > comma is used for separating addresses and the semicolon is used for
> > delimiting groups. If you want *your* mail program to explicitly break
> > on valid RFC 822 addresses, feel free to modify it, but I can't
> > imagine expecting it to be broken for everyone because your CEO
> > complains.
> >
> >   -Rich
> 
> In my second mail, which you only half quoted, I suggested warning the
> sender that the semicolons were invalid separators, not necessarily
> breaking the RFC 822.  Even the lowly Pine, which I am currently using,
> does that.
> 
> Until NeXTime,
> Leif E. Olson
> Programmer Tech
> National Information
> Solutions Cooperative
> 
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