[imp] imp 2.3.6 and server list

Robert Marchand robert.marchand@UMontreal.CA
Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:25:30 -0500


Hi,

     logs show nothing other than the usual logout.  As I have answered to 
Jon Parise,
     I`ll look further but not at this very moment.

Regards.


At 12:30 01-01-23 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:05:54PM -0500, Robert Marchand 
>(robert.marchand@UMontreal.CA) wrote:
> > Wow, wow, wow!
> >
> > <upset mode>
> >
> > you don't have to shout!
> >
> > IMAP is a standard.  good thing.  Show me a standard that has never 
> changed,
> > or that is well implanted by all.
> >
> > We`re here in the real world here.  You don't like bugs.  Me neither. 
> So in
> > my understanding, IMP 2.3.6 do not work well here.  That's all!!
>
>Right. But an IMAP server that doesn't support UID FETCH is like a
>webserver that can't support GET, or a POP3 server that can't support
>RETR.
>
>It's not a minor deviation from the standard, it's fundamentally
>broken.
>
>I have a very hard time believing that that IMAP server actually
>*doesn't* support UID FETCH, because that would make it really hard to
>read mail. So you need to look around and see why it's reporting that.
>
>Remember, if you want to use the development version, things will
>break. Often. Regularly. And there's an expectation that in using it
>you'll be willing to track down problems, especially ones that you're
>encountering but no-one else is.
>
>If you want stability, you don't want IMP 2.3 yet. That's what 2.2 is
>for.
>
> > Well, maybe IMAP is a true standard, I don't know enough.
>
>It is. Protocols like IMAP (and HTTP and POP and SMTP and so forth)
>are ratified by the Internet Engineering Task Force, who publish them
>in RFCs. IMAP's is RFC 2060.
>
> > And maybe this UID thing is not a `left to implementers discretion`
> > but a REQUIRED one. I don't know.
>
>It is.
>
> > I would have prefered that you enlight me about that instead of
> > saying blank statements.
>
>I've explained that it's part of IMAP. IMAP's well-defined and is
>documented in the RFC I pointed you at before. But when I explain that
>it's part of the standard, and that it won't work without it, and that
>you might want to examine your IMAP server -- mightn't it be prudent
>to look into that first instead of insisting that the problem is with
>IMP?
>
> > If you don't like people reporting problems...
>
>I'm not sure where this comes from. You reported the problem, I
>explained where the problem resided and asked you to check your IMAP
>server's logs. You've since replied a couple times suggesting that
>it's still IMP's fault, and I *still* have no idea what's in your IMAP
>server's logs.
>
>   -Rich
>
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