[imp] PHP trouble

[jlewis@lewis.org]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:

> Quoting jlewis@lewis.org:
>
> > Guess I'll have to wait for PHP 4.0.4pl(doesn't suck).  Back with
> > 4.0.4pl1, reply works fine.
>
> Please, if you have to make snide remarks about open source software,
> do it elsewhere. You're pissing off the people who do work that you
> benefit from without expecting you to recompensate them personally for

It wasn't meant to sound as snide/nasty as you seem to have taken it.
When I typed that at work today, I was literally surrounded by
dead/defective/buggy hardware.  On my desk, I have a Cisco 2501 that
caught fire and burned up a portion of the "motherboard", a Cisco 5300
with a bunch of bad modem cards and a defective fan, and a new server
that has hardware issues and locks up the RAID card under even mild disk
i/o.

I've been using and contributing to Open Source since long before it was
called that.  It's just annoying to upgrade a piece of software to fix one
bug only to find the upgrade has introduced more serious ones.  I realize
the PHP CVS tree is a WIP.  They even warn you not to be surprised if the
copy you grab won't compile.  But this upgrade had been recommended.  Who
knows...if I'd done it a few days ago, I might have gotten lucky and ended
up with a version that fixed the bug I was encountering but hadn't yet had
the new bugs introduced.

We joke about this sort of thing with Cisco IOS.  If you want IOS for
anything much larger than a 2501, you have to balance the features you
need against the bugs you can live with, because there are virtually no
bugless versions of IOS for their bigger routers or access servers.

So I've downgraded to PHP 4.0.3pl1, which fixed the newmail_popup problem
for me, even though AFAIK 4.0.3pl1 does have some security bugs which I
don't think are applicable to my particular installation.


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