How to translate help.xml

Mike Coughlan mcoughlan@gothambroadband.com
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Hi,

I need to author a German translation for the IMP help.xlm file.  I was able
to copy the english version into /horde/imp/locale/de and I saw it appear.
However, when I did the translation to German, nothing came up.

Two significant differences between the files are:

--  <?xml version="1.0" >
++ <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>

and

The inclusion of CDATA tags to escape the German language characters

    <para>
    <![CDATA[
Durch Klicken auf "Nachricht senden" wird die E-Mail-Nachricht an den bzw.
die gew
<FC>nschten Empf<E4>nger gesendet. Bevor Sie hierauf klicken, sollten Sie
sicher se
in, dass Sie die Nachricht wirklich senden m<F6>chten, da sie sich nach dem
Absende
n nicht mehr zur<FC>ckrufen l<E4>sst.
    ]]> </para>

What am I missing?  I was able to surf each xml file without errors. Is
there a foreign language help.xml example I can use as a template? What XML
parser does Horde use, and why would this not work?

TIA

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Subject: Re: [imp] Mails aren't wrapped

Quoting Alexander Skwar <ASkwar@DigitalProjects.com>:

> Okay, here's a diff to set the width of the textarea when composing a
> message to the widht set in the prefs.  Further, it fixes the layout of
> the row with the textarea so that it's left side is orderly under the
> leftsides of the other "boxes" on the screen.

I've committed the width changes (also to the signature box in options). I 
didn't do the alignment change; that's simply a waste of screen real estate.

Also, for future reference: in the templates, <?= $var ?> is much preferred to 
<?php echo $var ?>.

-chuck

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Subject: Re: [imp] Problem with IMP2.3.7 and Qmail qmail-inject and sendmail  wrapper

Quoting Kris von Mach <dev@swishmail.com>:

> I have done a clean install of FreeBSD 4.4-rel and I still have the same
> problem that I reported a week ago. Sending emails with attachments using 
> IMP 2.3.7 latest, qmail's qmail-inject or qmail's sendmail wrapper and
> opening the message using Netscape or Eudora...

Try latest cvs... I may have screwed some stuff up a bit ago. I think it's 
fixed.

-chuck

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Subject: Re: [imp] Language setting is ignored

Quoting Alexander Skwar <ASkwar@DigitalProjects.com>:

> Hmm, what's the problem with the string anyway?  Shouldn't
> Lang::select() use the first supplied language (de-de)?  Wouldn't it be
> sufficient if the test done in Lang::_map would be done in a case
> insensitive way and if - is translated to _?  Do you see any problems
> with this:

Well, those are the problems with the string and exactly how I asked you to 
patch the function. :)

-chuck

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Subject: Re: [imp] Language setting is ignored

Quoting Alexander Skwar <ASkwar@DigitalProjects.com>:

> Uhm, why?

Why do what? Fix things that don't work? I hope the answer is obvious...

> IMO the handling of the language is wrong.  If the user has
> set a language in his preferences, this language should always be used.

Sounds about right. Patches?

-chuck

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>From chuck@horde.org Date: Tue,  9 Oct 2001 11:17:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: [imp] IMP 2.3 address books

Quoting "Lic. Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez" <rodolfo@equinoxe.g-networks.net>:

> I'm attaching a PHP class by Manuel Lemos which does it. It returns
> values corresponging to "not valid", "maybe valid" and "valid". It has
> worked for me. It could be just informative, or if using a kind of "strict
> mode", it could allow or deny sending e-mail to the address, as you
> wish.

I wouldn't want to rely on that class; there are all kinds of things that it 
could incorrectly allow or deny. And no email client that I know of attempts to 
do this task.

-chuck

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Subject: Re: [imp] Mails aren't wrapped

Zitat von Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

> options). I 
> didn't do the alignment change; that's simply a waste of screen real

Oh, please do!  It simply looks so terribly ugly if the box doesn't
start on the same "column" as the other boxes.  And actually it's no
waste, as the boxes above (with the To:, CC: ....) and below with the
buttons (Senden....) are wider anyhow.

Please see
http://dp.ath.cx/~askwar/Shot/2001_10_09_184649_shot.png
and
http://dp.ath.cx/~askwar/Shot/2001_10_09_184909_shot.png

> Also, for future reference: in the templates, <?= $var ?> is much
> preferred to 
> <?php echo $var ?>.

Yuck.  All right, your project... *G*

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Subject: Re: [imp] Language setting is ignored

Zitat von Chuck Hagenbuch <chuck@horde.org>:

> Well, those are the problems with the string and exactly how I asked
> you to 
> patch the function. :)

Well, you know, I've got the habbit to think while I write.  This
sometimes causes mails which, at the end, already answer itself.  You
know, when I write it down, the problem becomes clearer to me.  The
result (in this case) was that I send you a fixed function :)

Did you apply the rewritten function?

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