[imp] IMP 3.1 / user@domain.ext on virtual domains

[Hammad]

Let me get this straight, you want all your 500 domains to access their mail
through a single URL: http://webmail2.kabissa.org and want them to login without
having to enter their domain after username and also want them to have correct
email address under their identity.

If there is no way we can identify their domain for their email, then can't do
it. There has to be something to identify their domain even if its transparent
to them. URL is one way you can do it, entering domain info after username is
another way but without it. NO WAY.

Good Luck

--
Hammad


Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias@kabissa.org>:

> Hi Hammad, 
> 
> Thanks for writing. I was actually hoping to get some help with my problem,
> not 
> advertising to move my domains to another server! If you can help out, please
> 
> let me know. Kabissa is a non-profit initiative run on a shoestring budget,
> so 
> we would really be grateful for some advice on how to make IMP work for our
> 
> purposes. REALLY grateful. :-) 
> 
> One difference between what you're offering and what we want to offer is that
> 
> we do not want to set up multiple URLs for IMP - ie. mail.domain.ext and 
> mail.domain2.ext etc - we only want the one instance of IMP being accessed
> via 
> the one single URL at http://webmail2.kabissa.org - at the same time we don't
> 
> want preferences to be shared across domains and we want the default identity
> 
> to contain the correct email address for the username. 
> 
> Am I really the only person with this issue? I would have thought this would
> be 
> a common problem - perhaps I'm just approaching this in the wrong way.. if
> so, 
> someone please enlighten me! We're so close to getting this ready to release
> to 
> our users! We've been using IMP 3.1 it for our own purposes for over two
> months 
> now and are really happy with it - but can't share it with the rest of our 
> users because of this problem. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> Tobias
> 
> -- 
> Tobias Eigen
> tobias@kabissa.org
> 
> Kabissa - Space for change in Africa
> http://www.kabissa.org
> 
> 
> Quoting Hammad <hammad@brisksolutions.com>:
> 
> > We at mail.brisksolutions.com provide exactly something like that. You
> like
> > us
> > to host your 500 domains. :)
> > 
> > We use IMP 3.1, HORDE 2.1, Courier-Imap, Vpopmail, Qmail.
> > 
> > And you don't have to put domain info after the username. Kool, isn't it.
> > Unfortunately, just vdomain hook under IMP in not enough to do what you
> are
> > trying to do.
> > 
> > Example: goto:  http://mail.brisksolutions.com   and then
> > http://mail.visionglow.net
> > 
> > Same code, same server, same database but dynamic info for pages. Kool,
> isn't
> > it.
> > 
> > --
> > Hammad
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias@kabissa.org>:
> > 
> > > Hi Ed, 
> > > 
> > > OK, let me try this again. 
> > > 
> > > 1. I have many domains on my server - about 500 in fact. I want to
> offer
> > my
> > > 
> > > users webmail access to their IMAP mailboxes using IMP. 
> > > 
> > > 2. I'm running a PLESK system (http://www.plesk.com) installed on
> Redhat
> > 7.2
> > > 
> > > with qmail and courier-imap. This allows people to set up and manage
> > multiple
> > > 
> > > mailboxes on their domains, as well as aliases etc. I don't know what
> kind
> > of
> > > 
> > > accounts these are - but I think not system accounts but only with
> access
> > to
> > > 
> > > imap mailboxes.  
> > > 
> > > 3. I want to have a single login page to IMP at
> http://webmail.kabissa.org
> > 
> > > (that's currently 2.2 - I'm testing 3.1 at
> > http://webmail2.kabissa.org/imp)
> > > 
> > > 4. Currently, if I set the server to localhost and do not allow users the
> 
> > > option to specify the server name, then preferences are shared between 
> > > usernames. For example, if I have a user info@domain.ext and
> > info@domain2.ext
> > > 
> > > then the preferences for the two users will be the same. This affects 
> > > identities, filters, addressbook, etc. Not good. 
> > > 
> > > 5. Even if there is no overlap across domains I have a problem. When a
> > user
> > > 
> > > logs into IMP for the first time, then the "from" address will be
> > incorrectly
> > > 
> > > specified as user@kabissa.org and not their own domain.ext. Their
> replies
> > > then 
> > > will bounce. It's very frustrating for them. 
> > > 
> > > 6. My idea for solving the preferences and default identity problem is
> to
> > > have 
> > > people log in with their full email address - username@domain.ext -
> which
> > is
> > > 
> > > then broken apart to be used as follows: 
> > > 
> > > username - to log in
> > > username@domain.ext - for preferences in IMP
> > > username@domain.ext - From address for default identity
> > > 
> > > 7. I have the idea that this can be handled through hooks, but don't know
> 
> > > enough abou it to know how. 
> > > 
> > > Does this help? 
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Tobias
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Tobias Eigen
> > > tobias@kabissa.org
> > > 
> > > Kabissa - Space for change in Africa
> > > http://www.kabissa.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Quoting eculp@encontacto.net:
> > > 
> > > > Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias@kabissa.org>:
> > > > 
> > > >  | Hi Ed,
> > > >  | 
> > > >  | Thanks for the (quick!) reply. I'm not sure if I am using "virtual
> > > > domains"
> > > >  | as
> > > >  | you describe, but I thought I was. Can you tell me how to find
> out?
> > > > 
> > > > To login to your imap or pop3 server your user will have include the
> > > domain.
> > > > Your users probably don't have systems accounts on your server.
> > > > 
> > > >  | 
> > > >  | I'm using IMAP to authenticate, and IMP for HORDE authentication.
> > > >  | 
> > > >  | There is but one way into IMP at the moment:
> > > http://webmail2.kabissa.org
> > > >  | 
> > > >  | When it's ready, I want to move this to http://webmail.kabissa.org
> > > >  | 
> > > >  | My understanding, with my limited coding capability, of the vinfo
> > hook
> > > is
> > > >  | that
> > > >  | it uses the $HTTP_HOST variable to get the domain name - what I
> > > actually
> > > >  | want
> > > >  | is for users to specify the domain name when they log in - ie.
> > instead
> > > >  | of 'username' they type in 'username@domain.com'. 
> > > > 
> > > > That is the default operation for virtual domains in courier, AFAIK. 
> It
> > > > sounds like your users have systems accounts.
> > > > 
> > > >  | The server name would then
> > > >  | always be localhost (they can't choose). 
> > > > 
> > > > I would assume that you only have one machine for imap, is that
> correct?
> > > > If it is just use localhost in horde/imp/servers.php.  
> > > > 
> > > >  | Is there a way to use the hook for
> > > >  | this purpose?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure if I understand why.  You are only using one server you
> can
> > > set
> > > > it to localhost no matter what the virtual domain is.  It would
> appear
> > > that
> > > > you
> > > > need to configure courier-imap for virtual hosts, select a backend,
> and
> > > then
> > > > use hooks to facilitate login for your users. [ tobias rather than 
> > > > tobias@kabissa.org ]  
> > > > 
> > > > I'm sorry but I am afraid I may not be understanding what you want to
> do
> > 
> > > > clearly.
> > > > 
> > > > ed
> > > > 
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