[imp] IMP 3.1 / user@domain.ext on virtual domains
Tobias Eigen
tobias at kabissa.org
Tue Dec 17 22:31:27 PST 2002
Hi Hammad,
Thanks for the response.
> Let me get this straight, you want all your 500 domains to access their mail
> through a single URL: http://webmail2.kabissa.org and want them to login
> without
> having to enter their domain after username and also want them to have
> correct
> email address under their identity.
I do want users to log into IMP with username@domain.ext - but I want IMP to
strip the @domain.ext from the username before logging the user into the IMAP
server, because this is what IMAP is looking for. The username@domain.ext would
then still be used for prefs and for the default identity.
> If there is no way we can identify their domain for their email, then can't
> do
> it. There has to be something to identify their domain even if its
> transparent
> to them. URL is one way you can do it, entering domain info after username
> is
> another way but without it. NO WAY.
>
>
> Good Luck
Thanks - luck seems to be the order of the day. <grin>
I'm hoping this can be done through a custom vinfo hook. I just took a look at
the sample vinfo hook and don't even know where to start. Since you're such a
good programmer, do you think you can help?
Cheers,
Tobias
>
> --
> Hammad
>
>
> Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias@kabissa.org>:
>
> > Hi Hammad,
> >
> > Thanks for writing. I was actually hoping to get some help with my
> problem,
> > not
> > advertising to move my domains to another server! If you can help out,
> please
> >
> > let me know. Kabissa is a non-profit initiative run on a shoestring
> budget,
> > so
> > we would really be grateful for some advice on how to make IMP work for
> our
> >
> > purposes. REALLY grateful. :-)
> >
> > One difference between what you're offering and what we want to offer is
> that
> >
> > we do not want to set up multiple URLs for IMP - ie. mail.domain.ext and
> > mail.domain2.ext etc - we only want the one instance of IMP being accessed
> > via
> > the one single URL at http://webmail2.kabissa.org - at the same time we
> don't
> >
> > want preferences to be shared across domains and we want the default
> identity
> >
> > to contain the correct email address for the username.
> >
> > Am I really the only person with this issue? I would have thought this
> would
> > be
> > a common problem - perhaps I'm just approaching this in the wrong way.. if
> > so,
> > someone please enlighten me! We're so close to getting this ready to
> release
> > to
> > our users! We've been using IMP 3.1 it for our own purposes for over two
> > months
> > now and are really happy with it - but can't share it with the rest of our
>
> > users because of this problem.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Tobias
> >
> > --
> > Tobias Eigen
> > tobias@kabissa.org
> >
> > Kabissa - Space for change in Africa
> > http://www.kabissa.org
> >
> >
> > Quoting Hammad <hammad@brisksolutions.com>:
> >
> > > We at mail.brisksolutions.com provide exactly something like that. You
> > like
> > > us
> > > to host your 500 domains. :)
> > >
> > > We use IMP 3.1, HORDE 2.1, Courier-Imap, Vpopmail, Qmail.
> > >
> > > And you don't have to put domain info after the username. Kool, isn't
> it.
> > > Unfortunately, just vdomain hook under IMP in not enough to do what you
> > are
> > > trying to do.
> > >
> > > Example: goto: http://mail.brisksolutions.com and then
> > > http://mail.visionglow.net
> > >
> > > Same code, same server, same database but dynamic info for pages. Kool,
> > isn't
> > > it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hammad
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias@kabissa.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ed,
> > > >
> > > > OK, let me try this again.
> > > >
> > > > 1. I have many domains on my server - about 500 in fact. I want to
> > offer
> > > my
> > > >
> > > > users webmail access to their IMAP mailboxes using IMP.
> > > >
> > > > 2. I'm running a PLESK system (http://www.plesk.com) installed on
> > Redhat
> > > 7.2
> > > >
> > > > with qmail and courier-imap. This allows people to set up and manage
> > > multiple
> > > >
> > > > mailboxes on their domains, as well as aliases etc. I don't know what
> > kind
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > accounts these are - but I think not system accounts but only with
> > access
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > imap mailboxes.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I want to have a single login page to IMP at
> > http://webmail.kabissa.org
> > >
> > > > (that's currently 2.2 - I'm testing 3.1 at
> > > http://webmail2.kabissa.org/imp)
> > > >
> > > > 4. Currently, if I set the server to localhost and do not allow users
> the
> >
> > > > option to specify the server name, then preferences are shared between
>
> > > > usernames. For example, if I have a user info@domain.ext and
> > > info@domain2.ext
> > > >
> > > > then the preferences for the two users will be the same. This affects
> > > > identities, filters, addressbook, etc. Not good.
> > > >
> > > > 5. Even if there is no overlap across domains I have a problem. When a
> > > user
> > > >
> > > > logs into IMP for the first time, then the "from" address will be
> > > incorrectly
> > > >
> > > > specified as user@kabissa.org and not their own domain.ext. Their
> > replies
> > > > then
> > > > will bounce. It's very frustrating for them.
> > > >
> > > > 6. My idea for solving the preferences and default identity problem is
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > people log in with their full email address - username@domain.ext -
> > which
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > then broken apart to be used as follows:
> > > >
> > > > username - to log in
> > > > username@domain.ext - for preferences in IMP
> > > > username@domain.ext - From address for default identity
> > > >
> > > > 7. I have the idea that this can be handled through hooks, but don't
> know
> >
> > > > enough abou it to know how.
> > > >
> > > > Does this help?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Tobias
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tobias Eigen
> > > > tobias@kabissa.org
> > > >
> > > > Kabissa - Space for change in Africa
> > > > http://www.kabissa.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quoting eculp@encontacto.net:
> > > >
> > > > > Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias@kabissa.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > | Hi Ed,
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Thanks for the (quick!) reply. I'm not sure if I am using
> "virtual
> > > > > domains"
> > > > > | as
> > > > > | you describe, but I thought I was. Can you tell me how to find
> > out?
> > > > >
> > > > > To login to your imap or pop3 server your user will have include the
> > > > domain.
> > > > > Your users probably don't have systems accounts on your server.
> > > > >
> > > > > |
> > > > > | I'm using IMAP to authenticate, and IMP for HORDE authentication.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | There is but one way into IMP at the moment:
> > > > http://webmail2.kabissa.org
> > > > > |
> > > > > | When it's ready, I want to move this to
> http://webmail.kabissa.org
> > > > > |
> > > > > | My understanding, with my limited coding capability, of the vinfo
> > > hook
> > > > is
> > > > > | that
> > > > > | it uses the $HTTP_HOST variable to get the domain name - what I
> > > > actually
> > > > > | want
> > > > > | is for users to specify the domain name when they log in - ie.
> > > instead
> > > > > | of 'username' they type in 'username@domain.com'.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is the default operation for virtual domains in courier, AFAIK.
>
> > It
> > > > > sounds like your users have systems accounts.
> > > > >
> > > > > | The server name would then
> > > > > | always be localhost (they can't choose).
> > > > >
> > > > > I would assume that you only have one machine for imap, is that
> > correct?
> > > > > If it is just use localhost in horde/imp/servers.php.
> > > > >
> > > > > | Is there a way to use the hook for
> > > > > | this purpose?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure if I understand why. You are only using one server you
> > can
> > > > set
> > > > > it to localhost no matter what the virtual domain is. It would
> > appear
> > > > that
> > > > > you
> > > > > need to configure courier-imap for virtual hosts, select a backend,
> > and
> > > > then
> > > > > use hooks to facilitate login for your users. [ tobias rather than
> > > > > tobias@kabissa.org ]
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry but I am afraid I may not be understanding what you want
> to
> > do
> > >
> > > > > clearly.
> > > > >
> > > > > ed
> > > > >
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