[imp] How to disables to UTF-8 Viewing !

Umut Arus umuta at sabanciuniv.edu
Mon Jan 7 18:21:26 UTC 2008


Regards Otto,

It is clear now. Some language specific characters were removed as  
charset is ISO-8859-9 and browser encoding is ISO-8859-9 in compose  
page. Browser defaults have been changed.

thanks,


  Quoting Otto Stolz <Otto.Stolz at uni-konstanz.de>:

> Hello,
>
> Zitat von Umut Arus <umuta at sabanciuniv.edu>:
>> I'm using webmail version of IMP: H3 (4.1.4) and Horde: 3.1.4.
>> Sending message as ISO-8859-9 translates to UTF-8 in IMP. In other
>> words, browsers are changing its "Character Encoding" to UTF-8 although
>> message source is "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9;
>> format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit"
>
> And I am very happy that Horde 3 and Imp 4 eventually have achieved this.
>
>> Why is it translates?
>
> The message to be viewed is only part of the WWW page displayed
> by Webmail (Imp): an important part is the user interface (menus,
> sidebar, tool-tips, status line, messages). Now, the user interface
> is completely unrelated to the content (language and encoding) of
> the messages to be handled: I want to be able to receive, and send,
> messages in any language and encoding, regardless of the language
> the user-interface is presented to me in. Particularly, the messages
> received are encoded at the sender’s whim, and even in my mother
> tonge I will receive messages, on a regular base,  in 3 different
> encodings, viz. ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-15, and UTF-8.
>
> Now Unicode is the only available code that contains all characters
> contained in all popular encodings. Hence you can easily transform
> any standard-conforming message into Unicode, but into no other code.
>
> Moreover, a WWW page must be encoded uniformly, i. e. in one single
> code. Hence, having the user interface entirely in Unicode and trans-
> forming any information encoded otherwise into Unicode, is the only
> technical feasable way to design a versatile Webmail program.
>
> UTF-8 is one of the three standardized Unicode transfer encodings,
> and it is understood by virtually any browser; hence I deem this
> encoding the best choice for a Webmail interface. With this approach,
> Webmail can correctly display the subjects, and senders, of all
> messages in my INBOX, and it can display any character in any message
> (provided there is a suitable font installed, of course).
>
> Note that Windows NT4/XP/2000/Vista use Unicode internally, hence
> cut-and-paste between any system-conforming application and Imp’s
> pages (in the browser) is possible without problems -- in both
> directions: You can paste any character (or string) from any
> application into a message you are creating, and you can paste
> a quote from any message received into any application. The same
> holds true for most Unix-based systems (including Mac OS X), as
> they now normally use UTF-8 as their internal code.
>
> Given the ease of using the UTF-8 based Webmail interface in
> an Unicode-based system, why would you ever wish to change the
> Webmail interface’s codepage?
>
> With Imp, you can always choose the encoding of the outgoing
> messages to please the addressee (or to cope with their technical
> limitations, as need may be). Beware however, that Imp will replace
> with a question mark every character in your message not contained
> in the encoding chosen. (Imp should improve on this, e. g. by
> issuing a warning, or even better by tellinmg the user exactly which
> characters in the message cannot be sent in the encoding chosen).
>
> Best wishes,
>   Otto Stolz




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