[imp] hide messages marked for deletion or purge deleted messages

[Chris Lafty]

I prefer IMP's method over Thunderbird.  Kudos to the imp team.

I want one of two things..

1.  Hide any messages that have been marked for deletion (just hide) and 
still use the trash folder.
or
2.  Expunge all messages marked for deletion (in the same folder) when I 
delete a message that has been marked for deletion.

I think it is silly that I have to check 20 boxes next to messages that 
have been marked for deletion (thunderbird's laziness) and hit delete.  
At the same time a copy exists in my trash folder.

-C

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Christopher Lafty
Systems Administrator - Windows and Linux
132 Madill Hall
St. Lawrence University
clafty at stlawu.edu

Telephone: 315-229-5953
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Michael M Slusarz wrote:
> Quoting Chris Lafty <clafty at stlawu.edu>:
>
>> In Thunderbird:
>> Delete a message --> copies the message to trash --> marks the 
>> original message for deletion and hides it.  Gets expunged at some 
>> point.
>>
>> In IMP (our config):
>> Delete a message --> copies the message to trash --> removes the 
>> original message.
>
> I realized I am biased, but our way of doing this seems to make a 
> whole lot more sense than Thunderbird's way.  Move message to Trash 
> when deleted means just that - when I click move I want that message 
> to be gone forever from the mailbox I am deleting from.  This needs to 
> be an atomic operation, not a lazy operation.
>
>> Both scenarios are fine.  It's a problem when the person logs onto 
>> imp and sees messages marked for deletion from Thunderbird.  It is 
>> much easier to make changes on a server than 1,000 client machines.  
>> Unfortunately, Thunderbird isn't controlled by Active Directory.  I 
>> just don't see why IMP ever has to show messages that have been 
>> marked for deletion if it copies them to the trash..  But I'm 
>> probably not going to win this argument, so I just want to know why 
>> the new version doesn't expunge the entire mailbox when you delete a 
>> message that has already been marked for deletion.
>
> Because you would be making an *extremely* ill-advised assumption.  If 
> you set "move messages to Trash" option in IMP, that literally means 
> "move any message I delete using the IMP interface to the Trash".  You 
> apparently want that to mean instead "move any message I delete using 
> the IMP interface, along with messages that I may/many not know are 
> deleted, and may not even appear in my current view, to the Trash."  
> But that's not what IMP's option says it is going to do.
>
> Deleting *any* message is the most destructive operation possible with 
> IMAP, so you need to make especially sure that you are 100% sure the 
> user wants to delete.  If you are only 99% sure the user wants to 
> delete those messages, you simply can't do it.  Those are just the 
> facts of life (and UI design).
>
> michael
>