[imp] delete emails directly and permanently

[Graeme Wood]

Different IMAP servers will implement quotas and message deletions  
differently,
as they implement how they store mailboxes differently and how they  
implement
quotas. If you are using University of Washington IMAP on Unix using  
Unix
quotas, for example, you will always need to have extra quota to allow  
the
mailbox to be copied to a temporary file when deleting messages. If you
are using Cyrus IMAP, which implements its own quotas and a file per  
message, you
won't need to have spare quota to delete messages. So if people running
out of quota is a problem for you, you should use an IMAP server that
will allow message deletions in that situation. It sounds like you have
an inappropriate IMAP server for your user requirements.


On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:16, Arminas wrote:

> Do you mean that if mail server denies moving anything to different
> directory if user's quota is reached, SO mail server doesnt work
> correctly? Mail server should allow moving stuff from one dir to
> another if quota is reached?
>
> 2008/8/28 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
>> It won't matter. Several people have already told you that the  
>> ability of a
>> mail client
>> to delete messages on the server when you have run out of quota has  
>> NOTHING
>> to do with
>> the client. It is how the server handles deletion of messages. You  
>> need to
>> fix your
>> SERVER not the client. The client doesn't delete messages. The  
>> server does.
>> If the
>> server can't delete a message when a user is over quota it won't  
>> make a
>> blind
>> bit of difference having a button on your client that says 'Delete
>> immediately'.
>>
>>
>> On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:08, Arminas wrote:
>>
>>> For ability to delete messages. If mail server's quota is on and
>>> client program doesnt provide marking messages as deleted or not  
>>> using
>>> vtrash.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/8/28 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>>
>>>> For what purpose?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Arminas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I would be glad (I think not only me) if in the next horde
>>>>> release, feature "Delete emails permanently" will be included.  
>>>>> F.e. if
>>>>> user is not using Virtual trash and function "Marking messages as
>>>>> deleted" is disabled, then button Delete emails permanently is  
>>>>> shown.
>>>>> It's just a suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arminas
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/8/27 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27 Aug 2008, at 20:18, Andrew Morgan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Arminas wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No way. :) It is impossible to train them. All changes I make  
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> updating horde must not be visible for my users. It's all  
>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, those are your 3 options.  Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well there probably is another one: stop using quotas.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Graeme Wood, Unix Section of the IT Infrastructure Division,
>>>> Information Services, The University of Edinburgh
>>>> Email: Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk Phone: +44 131 650 5003 Fax: +44 131  
>>>> 650 6552
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
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>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>
>>
>


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